Mafia 2015.2 - The Game (7 Viewers)

[radekas]

The jailer is failing hard unless he wad recruited and that's what they want him to do.

In any case last 2 days were easy for us with Oce and Fred doing all the job. It is over though.

I still have my suspicions about Enron but they are only supported by one thing from 2 days ago and experience from previous game.

Salvo was acting pretty weird in the morning today (was't morning for him I guess) and for an experienced player that seems shady. He is also not posting that much since the beginning. Being from Australia doesn't help I think.

Hoori being recruited seems like a strong option. I've heard legends about how good she is at this game . If the Gs recruited yesterday after Ocelot told us about Klin, this needs to be considered.

Meh I guess Salvo for now.

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@Maddy, I believe Fred's whack was pure luck (Klin will be mad at me for saying this but I cannot believe they did actually manage to figure Fred out). They surely included Ocelot among their recruit options, I doubt Fred was in that list though. And I'm pretty sure I was not there either. I am of absolutely no use for the G's. C's are paranoid (euphemism for dumb, I'm sorry) enough not to acknowledge that I started the game as a C. I read every page and I was the first one who had concrete reasons why I suspected Matt and Klin (you can see my posts), and despite that, I was a suspect by our nice group of civilians almost everyday. No way would have they even included me in their list. I believe they went after someone they suspected to be the lawyer or someone who was unanimously seen as a C (Joker or Soren; these guys were my sure Cs).

You keep telling us that the Gs have no use of you. Maybe I'm missing something but can you explain why?

 

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[89man]

Read through and still can't identify anyone as looking in any way suspicious.

 

[king Ale]

Been catching up on as much as I could today. Busy as fuck. Probably shouldn't have signed up. But fuck that now.

My vote today will fall on Hoori and here is why:

She started as a C. I'm quite sure. But since that I'm also quite sure she has been recruited. Why?

Well. Hoori is by reputation known as a really good player, someone you either want with you or dead. Why hasn't she been whacked then by the G's?

Well. Cause she was someone they wanted to recruit, due to two reasons a) Most would believe she is a C after her "accident" in the beginning b) She is a good player. You want her as a friend not a foe.

Yesterday we saw that the recruiter was killed, at that time the G's knew at least the BG and maybe the D, so I suspect they put in Ocelot's, Fred's and the player they wanted's name: Hoori.

Her weird attack on Ocelot after he protected himself and not the D, makes no sense, since she told Ocelot this:



I think her attack (after she was recruited!) is to appear upset with the death of Fred.

So I am voting

King Ale

If I'm mistaken I am shit and has been played (again). But I'm quite confident Hoori has been recruited.

Oh I just noticed the last part of this post. My weird attack on Ocelot. Great. Your easy to convince innocent sheepish P) behavior was already very suspicious to me. Here I'm raising one big red flag for you My "attack" on Ocelot was not weird. He must have protected Fred, in my opinion. And I explained that quote of mine to you. The premise of such a statement is that he does not know the detective. Ocelot knew Fred. You are a G, my friend.

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You keep telling us that the Gs have no use of you. Maybe I'm missing something but can you explain why?

I think the fact that I'm being voted out is telling enough why I was an utter useless option for them

 

[Maddy]

Oh I just noticed the last part of this post. My weird attack on Ocelot. Great. Your easy to convince innocent sheepish P) behavior was already very suspicious to me. Here I'm raising one big red flag for you My "attack" on Ocelot was not weird. He must have protected Fred, in my opinion. And I explained that quote of mine to you. The premise of such a statement is that he does not know the detective. Ocelot knew Fred. You are a G, my friend.

I ain't gonna let you do an 'Alen' on me.

Btw. you knew very well, when you told Ocelot to "only protect himself" that the D would contact him. I don't buy your excuse.

 

[radekas]

I think the fact that I'm being voted out is telling enough why I was an utter useless option for them

So basically you are useless because people will lynch you anyway? I guess it does make sense. Though your apparent skill and the fact that the recruitment might have happened in panic also needs to be taken into account.

 

[89man]

Btw , drama rehearsals again tonight. Won't be here at deadline.

I'm going to just randomly select someone, as i have no one in particular to suspect.

Ragazza

 

[Ragazza]

At the point of her post to Ocelot, we had already been discussing getting the D to contact him, so it was assumed that Ocelot would likely have an idea of who the D was by the next day. If it was before we had that conversation, maybe that would make more sense.

 

[j0ker]

On a personal note btw, and because I feel I'm having a terrible game (which is actually the case whenever I play as a C at Juventuz ), I'd feel great if it turned out that I got Joker right Otherwise, well, terrible start and terrible finish

Oh how lovely and touching.. not

king Ale.

 

[Ocelot]

Trust me on this, voting for Hoori is the most sensible thing to do today. This could very well be my last post today, I'll try to check in with my phone a few times, but don't count on that.

First, the PM thing at the beginning. I don't want to give too much attention to it, but to me, it does more to discredit her than to make her seem more like a C. Simply because Hoori would in all probability not just write that in the thread, but PM Ford instead, which would be the sensible thing to do. How could she not have received her role if she were a G? First of all, Ford could've sent it to Hoori instead of king Ale. Second of all, there's this fake king Ale (http://forum.juventuz.org/members/19383-king-Аle), who could perhaps have ended up with the PM. Thirdly, Ford could have simply forgotten to send the PM.

In that case, as Gs obviously establish contact very early on, she'd still know that she was a G, and write in the thread (instead of Pming Ford), that she hasn't received her role.
The PM story does not at all meam that she started as a C.(consider this sentence bolded, can't do that on my phone)
Do not believe her that it does just because she repeats it often enough.


Second of all, there's the way her and Klin have interacted throughout the game. There's Klin "Hoori is a sure C" post right at the very beginning, and they've generally acted extremely friendly towards each other.


She was one of the three people me and Fred both agreed to being highly suspicious, along with Klin and a third player. We also had strong suspicions that the Gs might think that she's the D, especially due to my timing when ordering to go for Klin (it came exactly when people started to vote Hoori, hence the Gs might suspect that I would try to save her). We agreed that Fred would investigate the third person tomorrow, and if he's a C, lynch Hoori tomorrow if she hadn't been whacked. Originally we planned to investigate Hoori, decided against it however seeing as she might get whacked and we'd loose an investigation. Interestingly, Hoori was not whacked, even though she was ast least as likely to be the D as Fred. I'll come back to this later.



And finally, if she wasn't a G at the beginning, there's a rather large chance that she was recruited last night. I'm with Hoori in that they did not know who the D was definitely, but their two strongest candidates, if Hoori started out civilian, were probably Hoori and Fred. There are a few reasons for that, typing them all out would cost me way too much time on my phone, but just by two succesful investigations on two days they'd know that the player would have to be very good. I could very easily see them putting Fred and Hoori in the recruitment box along with me, and whacking the one they don't get.


Also her reaction right now, while being very convincing, does not prove anything. She saw Klin and to a lesser extent Quetz going ballistic after their outing and not achieving anything, so she's reacting differently.


This is a fucking huge ass monster post. but I had to get it all out in case I really don't make it back until deadline.
Vote Hoori.

 

[Ragazza]

Btw , drama rehearsals again tonight. Won't be here at deadline.

I'm going to just randomly select someone, as i have no one in particular to suspect.

Ragazza

I should have left you to die, milanista.

 

[89man]

I should have left you to die, milanista.

Nothing personal.
Nobody seems to be focusing on you, so i bet you'll be fine.

 

[Ragazza]

Nothing personal.
Nobody seems to be focusing on you, so i bet you'll be fine.

I hope you get relegated again.

 

[89man]

I hope you get relegated again.

See why you got to go and get all personal?
Milan are a far superior force in Europe , than Inter will ever be. No need to take it out on me.

 

[Ragazza]

By the way, @Ocelot there is a way to bold on phones. We talked about this the last game because I ended up missing a couple of non-bolded votes from people posting on their phones.

[ B ] text goes here [ /B ]

With no spaces in between the brackets. It's the same code that pops up when you press the bold button in the browser reply box.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

sorry joonam king ale

 

[king Ale]

I ain't gonna let you do an 'Alen' on me.

Btw. you knew very well, when you told Ocelot to "only protect himself" that the D would contact him. I don't buy your excuse.

I've done so many Hoori's on Alen I'm quite a character myself. Poor guy swore by his kids that he was a C [] and I convinced everyone that he was lying. And we killed him. And I was a C

I'm as good as gone now anyway, but I will not change my opinion; BG has to protect the detective no matter what. And I don't know why this opinion makes me a G. What would I gain as a G by "attacking" Ocelot? You are either being stupid or a G.

 

[Maddy]

You are either being stupid or a G.

Thanks for the insult

 

[king Ale]

Trust me on this, voting for Hoori is the most sensible thing to do today. This could very well be my last post today, I'll try to check in with my phone a few times, but don't count on that.

First, the PM thing at the beginning. I don't want to give too much attention to it, but to me, it does more to discredit her than to make her seem more like a C. Simply because Hoori would in all probability not just write that in the thread, but PM Ford instead, which would be the sensible thing to do. How could she not have received her role if she were a G? First of all, Ford could've sent it to Hoori instead of king Ale. Second of all, there's this fake king Ale (http://forum.juventuz.org/members/19383-king-Аle), who could perhaps have ended up with the PM. Thirdly, Ford could have simply forgotten to send the PM.

In that case, as Gs obviously establish contact very early on, she'd still know that she was a G, and write in the thread (instead of Pming Ford), that she hasn't received her role.
The PM story does not at all meam that she started as a C.(consider this sentence bolded, can't do that on my phone)
Do not believe her that it does just because she repeats it often enough.


Second of all, there's the way her and Klin have interacted throughout the game. There's Klin "Hoori is a sure C" post right at the very beginning, and they've generally acted extremely friendly towards each other.


She was one of the three people me and Fred both agreed to being highly suspicious, along with Klin and a third player. We also had strong suspicions that the Gs might think that she's the D, especially due to my timing when ordering to go for Klin (it came exactly when people started to vote Hoori, hence the Gs might suspect that I would try to save her). We agreed that Fred would investigate the third person tomorrow, and if he's a C, lynch Hoori tomorrow if she hadn't been whacked. Originally we planned to investigate Hoori, decided against it however seeing as she might get whacked and we'd loose an investigation. Interestingly, Hoori was not whacked, even though she was ast least as likely to be the D as Fred. I'll come back to this later.



And finally, if she wasn't a G at the beginning, there's a rather large chance that she was recruited last night. I'm with Hoori in that they did not know who the D was definitely, but their two strongest candidates, if Hoori started out civilian, were probably Hoori and Fred. There are a few reasons for that, typing them all out would cost me way too much time on my phone, but just by two succesful investigations on two days they'd know that the player would have to be very good. I could very easily see them putting Fred and Hoori in the recruitment box along with me, and whacking the one they don't get.


Also her reaction right now, while being very convincing, does not prove anything. She saw Klin and to a lesser extent Quetz going ballistic after their outing and not achieving anything, so she's reacting differently.


This is a fucking huge ass monster post. but I had to get it all out in case I really don't make it back until deadline.
Vote Hoori.

You don't really have to explain this to the civilians, they will follow you anyway. Even though I understand your concerns, you make zero sense in the arguments you are making. None of the things you are saying makes me a G. Then again, you don't need to reason for these people, they believe you even though you absolutely know nothing more than them.

Anyway, I'd go after either Joker or Maddy tomorrow. Just my two cents.

 

[ALC]

Vote hoori

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[king Ale]

sorry joonam king ale

You used to be able to reason So at least for the sake of the picture I have made of you in my mind, I hope you are a G