Mafia 2015.2 - The Game (13 Viewers)

[Alen]

It was a good game by Klin, but he had the bad luck that people know him from the previous games. I saw from the get go that he's a G. It was impossible to watch Klin acting so cool on some occasions and think he's a C. Even Soren is cool as ice compared to him.

I didn't read the thread in details, but I never thought for a second that Fred could be the D

P.S: If I were a G, I'd have tried to whack Ocelot today. I'd have failed, obviously, but it would have been logical to assume that he'll go on an adventure today and assume that the Gs would go for Fred (or Hoori if she's a C), thus protect Fred and leave himself unprotected.

 

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[Ocelot]

@Ocelot What's your take on the recruitment?
But honestly.. I haven't got much to go by right now.

Don't really know honestly, I can just assume and guess.

The one thing we do know however, is that they recruited exactly who they wanted (assuming they recruited today, which is very likely). They knew the BG, and had at least very strong suspicion for the D (Fred could've been a shot in the dark, but I doubt it). There was no luck involved in the recruitment.

However, we can also assume that the recruitment was carried out under pressure, they barely had an hour of time. Again assuming they did it today.

What's your take on Matt presenting X as the jailer to you?

It's...interesting. I got a few theories on that, but that's for another time.

Also, while either decision was a risk, I really don't think me protecting myself can be considered an error defenitely. In hindsight, yes, but as Alen has confirmed, there are Gs who'd try to whack me as well.

 

[Tevez10]

Hello people. I got 2/3 right. Matt and klin, while Zach i just disliked him. Are you ready to listen to me who to vote for tomorrow?

 

[Maddy]

Hello people. I got 2/3 right. Matt and klin, while Zach i just disliked him. Are you ready to listen to me who to vote for tomorrow?

Wouldn't count on it

There's only one person we know isn't a G.

 

[Alen]

Also, while either decision was a risk, I really don't think me protecting myself can be considered an error defenitely. In hindsight, yes, but as Alen has confirmed, there are Gs who'd try to whack me as well.

If it's any consolation, I'd have protected myself too in your place. It was really logical to assume that the Gs will think how you'll protect the D, and go after you. I believe you thought they don't know who's the D and they have a 1 in 10 chance (or so) to whack him. But chances were much bigger that they'll think how you're protecting the D, and then go after whacking you. You did good, but you were unlucky that they got the D of all possible targets. It would have been memorable if they did the logical thing and went after you... and failed for the second time in 3 days

 

[Tevez10]

Wouldn't count on it

There's only one person we know isn't a G.

Shut up, go some pages and see yesterday who voted Soren after Klin got four votes. You have a hint there.

 

[Maddy]

Shut up, go some pages and see yesterday who voted Soren after Klin got four votes. You have a hint there.

Tomorrow. I promise.

 

[Enron]

Klin has been Lynched, he was the Recruiter

Fred has been whacked, he was the Detective

How did this fucking happen?

 

[king Ale]

Don't really know honestly, I can just assume and guess.

The one thing we do know however, is that they recruited exactly who they wanted (assuming they recruited today, which is very likely). They knew the BG, and had at least very strong suspicion for the D (Fred could've been a shot in the dark, but I doubt it). There was no luck involved in the recruitment.

However, we can also assume that the recruitment was carried out under pressure, they barely had an hour of time. Again assuming they did it today.



It's...interesting. I got a few theories on that, but that's for another time.

Also, while either decision was a risk, I really don't think me protecting myself can be considered an error defenitely. In hindsight, yes, but as Alen has confirmed, there are Gs who'd try to whack me as well.

It makes X very suspicious imo.

And if they had gone after you tonight, your move would have turned out to be intelligent and brave, I totally understand your (and Alen's) way of reasoning. However, I prefer to play it safe especially because BG only really matters as long as there is a detective.

 

[piotrr]

Not when he knows the detective. That's my approach to play this game: play it safe as a special role and take risk as a normal player. Even if they had killed Ocelot we would have had Fred for at least one more night which is one more day of investigation.

And if they had gone after you tonight, your move would have turned out to be intelligent and brave, I totally understand your (and Alen's) way of reasoning. However, I prefer to play it safe especially because BG only really matters as long as there is a detective.

I must disagree with you. Once BG is dead and they know who the D is he's gone next day. What's the point of sacrificing the BG to have the D around for one day? Having an immortal and confirmed BG for the rest of the game is huge for the Cs (X proved it in the mafia game during summer). Ocelot did the right thing and there's a big challenge ahead of him. Chances of whacking the D were like 1/8, so props to the G team for this as well.

 

[Ragazza]

I think we need to take a serious look at Hoori tomorrow. I'm beginning to believe the theory that Matt knew he was dead and said she was a G to make us all think she was a C.

 

[king Ale]

I must disagree with you. Once BG is dead and they know who the D is he's gone next day. What's the point of sacrificing the BG to have the D around for one day? Having an immortal and confirmed BG for the rest of the game is huge for the Cs (X proved it in the mafia game during summer). Ocelot did the right thing and there's a big challenge ahead of him. Chances of whacking the D were like 1/8, so props to the G team for this as well.

First of all, it's not sacrificing the BG. It takes real cojones to go after the BG instead of playing it safe and going after a normal random C (knowing that there is a reasonably high chance for the BG to protect himself). Protecting the D doesn't necessarily leave the BG unprotected. Secondly, even if the BG is gone, it doesn't mean the detective is gone the day after. For that to happen Gs have to exactly know who the D is "and" the jailer has to be either stupid or recruited. Again, that's only my approach to the game. No role is more important than the D so I, as a BG, will always try my best to make sure the detective is safe.

I'm going to read the thread from the beginning. Now that we know Matt and Klin were Gs, chances are we can find interesting stuff from reading previous nights' events.

 

[j0ker]

I think we need to take a serious look at Hoori tomorrow. I'm beginning to believe the theory that Matt knew he was dead and said she was a G to make us all think she was a C.

Yeah, that's my theory and do you know who was the first one to claim that Hoori is a sure C after Matt said that?

Klin.

 

[king Ale]

I think we need to take a serious look at Hoori tomorrow. I'm beginning to believe the theory that Matt knew he was dead and said she was a G to make us all think she was a C.

Think about it, if you are a C: What if people had bought his story? You yourself didn't notice that huge blunder in his reasoning and was waiting for Ocelot to confirm/discredit his story. I'm now hundred percent sure that Fred had already contacted Ocelot by that time but I'm also sure that when Matt claimed to be the D, Ocelot had to think twice for a second (what if Fred's lying?). So what would have happened if people had bought Matt's story? You would have voted me. Why would he have sacrificed a gangster?

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Yeah, that's my theory and do you know who was the first one to claim that Hoori is a sure C after Matt said that?

Klin.

So when Matt says I'm a G, I'm a G, but when Klin says I'm a C, I'm a G?

 

[Ragazza]

Yeah, that's my theory and do you know who was the first one to claim that Hoori is a sure C after Matt said that?

Klin.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

 

[j0ker]

Quetz

Why would the BG randomly protect Ocelot on the first day instead of himself? This confirms that king Ale is a C btw.

If anything I am more suspicious about king ale now.

And klin too.

Quetz knows he is done, now tries to present king ale as a G too so when he turns to be a G everyone will assume she is a C and of course there is klin to support that theory.

Dis gonna be good.

 

[Ragazza]

Think about it, if you are a C: What if people had bought his story? You yourself didn't notice that huge blunder in his reasoning and was waiting for Ocelot to confirm/discredit his story. I'm now hundred percent sure that Fred had already contacted Ocelot by that time but I'm also sure that when Matt claimed to be the D, Ocelot had to think twice for a second (what if Fred's lying?). So what would have happened if people had bought Matt's story? You would have voted me. Why would he have sacrificed a gangster?

Thing is, I don't think he expected to actually be believed. I think most people smelled his BS and didn't have to wait for Ocelot. If I had been at home at my laptop without distraction instead of out and trying to follow on my phone, or if I was a more seasoned player, I might have caught it at the time too.

 

[king Ale]

@j0ker, by your reaction to Matt's story (calling him out on his stupid blunder), I'm sure you are a civilian, unless you have been recruited. So try to be reasonable and think about it. I did not get a role. Jasper is the narrator and he's a little, well, nuts. He would have definitely auto lynched me or canceled the game if I had falsely claimed to not have received a role and indirectly questioned his competency I would never start a game like that. I'm no Alen Of course you can and you should think that I've been recruited but that's another story.

Again, we should read previous pages.

 

[j0ker]

Hoori, please.

No one was going to belive Matt and he and the rest of you Gs knew it.

So he mentioned you as a G so people would automatically assume that you are a C, and then there is another G Klin the first one to back that theory that you are a C.

 

[j0ker]

@j0ker, by your reaction to Matt's story (calling him out on his stupid blunder), I'm sure you are a civilian, unless you have been recruited. So try to be reasonable and think about it. I did not get a role. Jasper is the narrator and he's a little, well, nuts. He would have definitely auto lynched me or canceled the game if I had falsely claimed to not have received a role and indirectly questioned his competency I would never start a game like that. I'm no Alen Of course you can and you should think that I've been recruited but that's another story.

Again, we should read previous pages.

Yeah, let's shift the story to Ford and his blunder on the first day.

WTF has that to do with anything?



Game over Gs.