According to a Belgian website quoting Bild, he will be allowed to finsh the season at Bayern so if he comes, it won't be before the summer.
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Comparatively, Van Gaal is an improvement over Del Neri, but then again, so is every other manager currently associated with the sport. Including Ranieri - that doest mean we go about hiring him and/or whoever's available. You have to look at the way this team is built, it's cultural and sporting mindset, which is very different from how the Ajax and Barca models are built. A move like this is as short sighted as Marrotta coz Louis will be hired and fired before you can say Giuseppe. If anything, we are closest to Bayern in terms of history and style vis-a-vis the other teams he's been at. And even the good results he's acquired there has been due to the genius of Ribery, Robben and Mueller among others. We are from having that kind of quality on the pitch as things stand. Also having said that I don't believe Van Gaal is in the category of a Hiddink, Capello, Ancellotti, Mourinho. He's below them, both in terms of personality and ability. And right now, unfortunately, with this team playing with almost no identity, the last thing you need is someone whose perhaps the furthest thing from the ideologies Juventus has been conditioned to over its successful history. Right now, we need a guy with character, someone who will ingrain that winning mentality, something that has been part of the Bianconeri's game on the pitch.
Tactics, style of play are secondary at this point. Which is why getting a coach who understands the team, is right now more important than anything else. If given a choice, I don't mind Del Neri being around till the end of the season, so we can get a world class coach in the summer, rather than knee jerk now and give someone like Van Gaal a two year contract to implement his own ideas on a team that might not be ready for them. Also, I want to point out, the one thing we've shockingly lacked for two years now is continuity. All great teams are built on that. Which is why, play it safe and get a guy who'll grab the bull by the balls and bring out the best of everything available to him. And only one of those four i mentioned above, have it in them to do that, and even there I'd lean toward the Italians because they know this team and exactly what is needed. Capello now. AvB within 2-3 years. That's the right way forward. First re-inject the spirit and then bring in some fresh new ideas.
Tactics, style of play are secondary at this point. Which is why getting a coach who understands the team, is right now more important than anything else. If given a choice, I don't mind Del Neri being around till the end of the season, so we can get a world class coach in the summer, rather than knee jerk now and give someone like Van Gaal a two year contract to implement his own ideas on a team that might not be ready for them. Also, I want to point out, the one thing we've shockingly lacked for two years now is continuity. All great teams are built on that. Which is why, play it safe and get a guy who'll grab the bull by the balls and bring out the best of everything available to him. And only one of those four i mentioned above, have it in them to do that, and even there I'd lean toward the Italians because they know this team and exactly what is needed. Capello now. AvB within 2-3 years. That's the right way forward. First re-inject the spirit and then bring in some fresh new ideas.
? I also laughed at Bayern fans saying kein neuer and then seeing their goalie fuck up against hannover 
Van Gaal has that character.
So the right way forward is in fact not two, not three, but four and five steps backwards.
That's interesting.
Van Gaal's record speaks for itself. Half of what you said regarding Van Gaal's reliance on Ribery, Robben, et cetera applies to Capello as well, who couldn't even get to the Semis of the CL with perhaps the best starting XI in the world. So that's thrown out. We probably aren't getting Mourinho, so that's not an option. Carlo might be an option, and he's a good manager, so he might be able to come yet there's no guarantee of that, plus he still has a job. Hiddink would command astronomical wages, more so than Van Gaal, plus he probably won't be someone who sticks around to build a program for a number of years.
So since everyone else commands high wages and still actually have jobs, Van Gaal is the most realistic target out of all of them. We can sit around hoping for wishes that probably won't come true, or we could pounce on what is available to us right now.
So the right way forward is in fact not two, not three, but four and five steps backwards.
That's interesting.
Van Gaal's record speaks for itself. Half of what you said regarding Van Gaal's reliance on Ribery, Robben, et cetera applies to Capello as well, who couldn't even get to the Semis of the CL with perhaps the best starting XI in the world. So that's thrown out. We probably aren't getting Mourinho, so that's not an option. Carlo might be an option, and he's a good manager, so he might be able to come yet there's no guarantee of that, plus he still has a job. Hiddink would command astronomical wages, more so than Van Gaal, plus he probably won't be someone who sticks around to build a program for a number of years.
So since everyone else commands high wages and still actually have jobs, Van Gaal is the most realistic target out of all of them. We can sit around hoping for wishes that probably won't come true, or we could pounce on what is available to us right now.
The character argument is only a hypothesis because you won't see it till you see him on the job, at a team in total disarray. Also Van Gaal is not a coach whose a man manager, he's someone who focusses more on the tactical aspect. The guys with tough characters are the ones who go beyond formations, into the heads of players and motivate them to bring game. I don't believe you do that by dropping your pants and showing your 60 whatever year old testicles to your team in the dressing room.
As for Capello not making it to the semis of the CL with the best XI in the world? So what? That doesn't matter at this point. Does it? What good is it, talking continental football when we can't even win more than two games on the trot in our domestic league. The whole idea behind getting a Capello is standing on our feet in Italy first. Getting consistent against smaller teams, winning important games and most importantly carrying our mentality on to the pitch. Something we've not had thanks to a string of mediocre managers.
Yes, Capello is reliant on big players, but as things stand, that can't be a bad thing for us. It's gonna mean Marotta or whoever else is in charge of transfers next season will not be loaning people like a headless chicken. He will have to subscribe to certain levels of players that would only do us good and would fit the Juve style. More importantly, Capello is very clear about the kinds of player he needs and how they fit his ideas and formations. The man has a proven record wherever he's been but even that doesn't take precedence over the fact that when we had him around, we were untouchable in Italy at least. I doubt his second run here will be as successful, but at least he'll get us back to winning ways and for me he's the kind of coach we need when our most important issue right now is consistency and above all, that winning mentality.
Mourinho might be a pipe dream, coz more than his wages, its his allegiance to inter that might form a stumbling block. And its funny you say Hiddink won't stick around to build a program, which maybe true, but what makes you think Van Gaal will, seeing his temperament? Also, I don't agree with this whole idea of hiring someone right away coz they're available. Fact is, theres nothing left to salvage this season, whoever comes in should be a temporary arrangement, before we can analyse what we need in June, and more importantly who else is available to us. And how you got hiring Capello or the like would mean taking five steps back is beyond me, but I do believe Fabio is a realistic option. And I know I'd wait, before getting on that Van Gaal band-wagon. Don't believe it's what we need right now.
As for Capello not making it to the semis of the CL with the best XI in the world? So what? That doesn't matter at this point. Does it? What good is it, talking continental football when we can't even win more than two games on the trot in our domestic league. The whole idea behind getting a Capello is standing on our feet in Italy first. Getting consistent against smaller teams, winning important games and most importantly carrying our mentality on to the pitch. Something we've not had thanks to a string of mediocre managers.
Yes, Capello is reliant on big players, but as things stand, that can't be a bad thing for us. It's gonna mean Marotta or whoever else is in charge of transfers next season will not be loaning people like a headless chicken. He will have to subscribe to certain levels of players that would only do us good and would fit the Juve style. More importantly, Capello is very clear about the kinds of player he needs and how they fit his ideas and formations. The man has a proven record wherever he's been but even that doesn't take precedence over the fact that when we had him around, we were untouchable in Italy at least. I doubt his second run here will be as successful, but at least he'll get us back to winning ways and for me he's the kind of coach we need when our most important issue right now is consistency and above all, that winning mentality.
Mourinho might be a pipe dream, coz more than his wages, its his allegiance to inter that might form a stumbling block. And its funny you say Hiddink won't stick around to build a program, which maybe true, but what makes you think Van Gaal will, seeing his temperament? Also, I don't agree with this whole idea of hiring someone right away coz they're available. Fact is, theres nothing left to salvage this season, whoever comes in should be a temporary arrangement, before we can analyse what we need in June, and more importantly who else is available to us. And how you got hiring Capello or the like would mean taking five steps back is beyond me, but I do believe Fabio is a realistic option. And I know I'd wait, before getting on that Van Gaal band-wagon. Don't believe it's what we need right now.
I'm not a van Gaal fan but I have to admit, the guy knows football
he has won titles with Ajax, Barcelona, AZ and Bayern
he has won champions league
and always this crap about tactics...
he's not married to a 4-3-3 like many Dutch coaches but would that formation be so bad for Juve?
I think the guy is a prick, where do you think Mourinho picked up his charming personality, but to say that Van Gaal isn't world class is a bit short sighted
I don't want to make Bayern's account but Ribery has been average since the WC drama, Robben was injured half the time and Schweini has been mediocre this season.
members here are so short of memory
he has won titles with Ajax, Barcelona, AZ and Bayern
he has won champions league
and always this crap about tactics...
he's not married to a 4-3-3 like many Dutch coaches but would that formation be so bad for Juve?
I think the guy is a prick, where do you think Mourinho picked up his charming personality, but to say that Van Gaal isn't world class is a bit short sighted
I don't want to make Bayern's account but Ribery has been average since the WC drama, Robben was injured half the time and Schweini has been mediocre this season.
members here are so short of memory
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