dude im not saying killini should be loaned out...hell hes one of my fav players but he also had the blessing of playing alongside defenders like cannavaro in his prime,thuram,zambrotta and ferrara
ariaudo is unproven on any level as far as im concerned...plus defenders rarely make the headlines at such an early age,i mean only recently has chiellini acquired some sort of recognition beyond us juve fans
thats why i love ferguson...having such a great duo in vidic and ferdinand he realized what a mistake he made letting pique rot on the bench and this season gave evans a bunch of games in order not to lose out on him too
but our problem is we have legro and possibly caceres so how can ferrara do what ferguson did this yr with evans.esp in the year leading to the world cup u have to give that 3rd spot to legro so ariaudos chances are even more dismal
i hate the fact hed be playing for a shitty team in livorno...hopefully he doesnt turn out like palladino did after his spell there...but players need to play on a regular basis to prove themselves no matter who theyre playing with
take thiago motta as an example...barely played before coming to genoa and now ppl think hes this great midfielder which he isnt but thats only cuz he got regular minutes with genoa
i mean if ariaudo becomes a regular with livorno that could prob only help propel him into our lineup in the future..even g rossi when he was at man utd barely got playing time but when he was shipped out to a struggling parma he performed well enough to end up with a team like villareal who have had some great players play for them over the years
loans are risky moves no doubt..some talent evaporates such as banega or dos santos...but again some players emerge form loans playing with a lot of confidence cuz they got the minutes
marchisio was a regular with empoli which brought him back with a lot of confidence which is pretty evident in his displays..do u think had we kept him and gave him the 20-30 min here and there and a few starts in the coppa hed be as good as he is today
anyways long ass post..
sweet dreams husi
Oh man, where do I start. Top bolded and work my way down:
Santon was unproven this year. Mourinho gave him some starts, look at him now. Balotelli was unproven this year, besides his goal against Juve to kick him off. Look where he is now. Pato was lighting up brazil, went to Milan, given a chance and look at him now. So now, we let other teams give our players a chance in a below average team. You can't compare Rossi to Man U because he doesn't even play there anymore, they lost out on him sure with an expensive option to buy him back. Macheda is even being given chances. So, as you can see....it is well worth the risk of taking risks on these players playing for THEIR CLUB rather than being loaned out.
We don't have a problem with Legro/Caceres, its far from a problem, more like a luxury to have this many CBs. These boys have to earn their strips as does everyone. Give Ariaudo a chance and maybe he will surprise all of you. Let him learn from his mistakes here rather somewhere else just like Chiellini is learning from his. It is not a bad thing at all to have 5 CBs, especially if 1 or 2 go down with a minor injury and one needs rest or needs put out on the flank for an injured wingback. I don't see how you guys can't factor in Coppa, CL, and League games into the equation for rotating players, resting, and of course injured players OR players that are out performing in training that deserve the start. Legro is not guaranteed to be in the world cup squad and besides, if we have your guys wish to loan him out we may never know if Ariaudo ends up better than Legro because no one has the balls here to risk him to stay and play at Juve. Besides, knowing Lippi he wouldn't pick Ariaudo because of his young age.
To be honest, if Ariaudo out perfroms Caceres, Cannavaro, and Legro in training and starts all over them the hell yes, he earns it...experience or not, you earn your strips playing with your team. Mourinho took a big gamble with Santon EVEN IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and he did just fine....then again Mou had the balls to give him a go and turns out in return he gets one of the best new wingbacks in Italy. Not to mention Santon didn't start every game like you all say Ariaudo would on loan, he got minutes here and there and earned his starting spot.
Tiago Motta was an injury fiasco at Barca, thats largely why he didn't play there. Genoa gave him the "CHANCE" to play and look what they got in return after taking a
RISK....a great player and a hell of a lot of money in return from Inter.
How do you know or can you say that marchsio wouldn't be the same player getting less playing time and starts had he stayed at Juve instead of Empoli? Hell, we just bought a 25m dollar import to take his spot in the starting XI...which again, strengthens my argument...what was the point of the loan in the first place. Now he won't start as much and when he does it will be as backup to an injury, a sub, or rotation which is exactly what I am asking for from a much younger ariaudo. So far, when you look at DC, Marchisio, or Gio....all 3 went on loan...all 3 came back and only played last year due to the large amount of injuries we had AND THATS THE ONLY REASON THEY PLAYED and it looks like this year they will only be back ups to Sali, Moli, Melo, Sissoko, Tiago, Zanetti, Camo, and Diego or DP. Real positive considering they went on loan to "gain experience" to come back and light up our club...........from the bench.
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