Lorenzo Ariaudo (15 Viewers)

[Hust]

What is the name of that GK we signed that went to Grassphoppers? I don't mind loaning out GKs for example with absolutely no chance to play when he has Buffon, Manniger, and Chimenti in front of him.

Ariaudo can still play and give some competition to those in front of him, especially Legro.

 

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[The Curr]

What is the name of that GK we signed that went to Grassphoppers? I don't mind loaning out GKs for example with absolutely no chance to play when he has Buffon, Manniger, and Chimenti in front of him.

Ariaudo can still play and give some competition to those in front of him, especially Legro.

Mario Kirev.

 

[Hust]

I mean, if its inexperience you guys fear, then why does Chiellini still make stupid mistakes but still praised so highly? Chiellini has cost us goals before, or FKs so I don't see why Ariaudo (like Criscito) can just be sent away because of inexperience.

 

[Hust]

Mario Kirev.

Thats it, I wanted to say Kiev

 

[sateeh]

What is the name of that GK we signed that went to Grassphoppers? I don't mind loaning out GKs for example with absolutely no chance to play when he has Buffon, Manniger, and Chimenti in front of him.

Ariaudo can still play and give some competition to those in front of him, especially Legro.

I thought the biggest point against loaning out younger players in Ariaudo position ( very very limited chances of playing etc.. ) is that they will be able to train with the team, gain that experience whether its direction or that certain mentality that would provide them with the necessary basis for the future ?

Doesn't that apply to keepers as well ?

 

[Hust]

I thought the biggest point against loaning out younger players in Ariaudo position ( very very limited chances of playing etc.. ) is that they will be able to train with the team, gain that experience whether its direction or that certain mentality that would provide them with the necessary basis for the future ?

Doesn't that apply to keepers as well ?

Kirev has no chance of playing though, Ariaudo has a much stronger chance of playing more first team games. Ariaudo trains with the first team, Kirev is still in the primavera.

To me, it is better to stay with Juventus, train next to the likes of Chiellni and Canna with Ciro as his coach than go to a team like Livorno where he isn't even guaranteed to play.

 

[Hust]

Honestly what is the point in arguing with anyone, I see it differently. It's cool, you guys want a loan, I don't.

Look at Giovinco: Came back, got no playing time last year except out of position and this year we spend 25million dollars on a player that will see him in the same boat again this year.

Look at Marchisio: Same thing, this year we spend 25million more dollars on a player that will make him ride the bench and now with Tiago performing what chances does that give him, especially when Zanetti is fit?

DC: Now Sali and Moli are ahead of him.

Criscito:

Lanzafame: gone



When have we really had a loan come back and we all said THANK GOODNESS we let him go on loan for a year? So, next year Ariaudo comes back and we buy an expensive defender that makes him ride the bench, just like Marchisio, Gio, DC, etc and our new crop of youngsters come up and get loaned out only for the cycle to repeat. What is the point in developing youth then if we won't use them except for backup or pawns in a a future player exchange deal?

I feel like our Primavera is like the growing fields in the Matrix where humans are grown to maximize the long term solution for the machines.

 

[Eddy]

Stalin's Red Army, who's the idol of Livorno supporters, fought even against Hitler's forces and destroyed them but it doesnt make them look like a Salvation Army. Look, even Livorno supporters are against nazis, but they're supporting another totalitarian system, which makes them look silly considering the fact of many similarities between them.

I certainly cannot argue with aa Italian who's a supporter of this ideology as your wisdom about Italy is unmatched for me, but I can make my judgement about the ones, who drag Soviet Union flags in the stands, and there is a full stadium of them, as my country experienced its "beneficience" for decades.

I know nothing about Ravanelli presenting ideological statemaent or supporting Soviet Union, Guevara or any other totalitarian system, terrorists or murderers.
It was nice post of yours, Kaiser Franco, but I have to report it because of vulgar phrases. Would like to read more about communists in Italy though, really.

Forza Socialism

 

[JuveJay]

Honestly what is the point in arguing with anyone, I see it differently. It's cool, you guys want a loan, I don't.

Look at Giovinco: Came back, got no playing time last year except out of position and this year we spend 25million dollars on a player that will see him in the same boat again this year.

Look at Marchisio: Same thing, this year we spend 25million more dollars on a player that will make him ride the bench and now with Tiago performing what chances does that give him, especially when Zanetti is fit?

DC: Now Sali and Moli are ahead of him.

Criscito:

Lanzafame: gone



When have we really had a loan come back and we all said THANK GOODNESS we let him go on loan for a year? So, next year Ariaudo comes back and we buy an expensive defender that makes him ride the bench, just like Marchisio, Gio, DC, etc and our new crop of youngsters come up and get loaned out only for the cycle to repeat. What is the point in developing youth then if we won't use them except for backup or pawns in a a future player exchange deal?

I feel like our Primavera is like the growing fields in the Matrix where humans are grown to maximize the long term solution for the machines.

The club model is for 'champions and youngsters', we got the champions in this year but the club will not forget about the best youngsters, especially not with Ferrara in charge.

 

[Hust]

Are you sure about that?

 

[RavaneVialli]

Forza Socialism

Tell me, what's the difference between a poor man stealing your wallet with, let's say, 200 euro, and the state grabbing from you in the taxes those 200 euros "for social care"?











The answer is: in the second case half of that sum is wasted for civil servants structures. But you are angry when someone steals your wallet and at the same time happy that a state cares about the poor.
I'd rather give that money to charity than to the state to be sure it really helps poorer than me.

 

[Hust]

Either way, you lose 200 hundred dollars that you unfortunately don't have a choice where it goes. The thief is unfortunate but when the government intervenes and gives money to people that are too lazy to earn a living and would rather abuse the system then that's when I have a problem. Either way you look at it, the person gets fucked and are out 200 dollars because its society is twisted.

Just look at my av....I don't really have a choice anymore, at least for the next 4 years I get to look forward to higher taxes to help the "needy" because society dealt them a bad hand of cards. I say bollocks, I have been unemployed, in debt, etc and I don't ask for a penny from the government. It is my bed, I made it and I sleep in it and I would never ask for my government to give me money when I am more than capable of landing a job flipping burgers if I had to to pay my bills.

 

[Bjerknes]

So much for Cannavaro teaching Ariaudo some tricks at the back. :dielaugh:

Go ahead and loan out all the players you fucking morons.

 

[The Curr]

So much for Cannavaro teaching Ariaudo some tricks at the back. :dielaugh:

We'd may as well just release Cannavaro now.

 

[Bjerknes]

We'd may as well just release Cannavaro now.

It was obvious those claims were bullshit anyway, but gee, at least we could have seen Canna and Ariaudo play together a few times. But now that plan is shot.

Araiudo will end up exactly like Criscito. And honestly, I'll stop giving a damn about the stupid Primavera. Just scrap that crap.

 

[The Curr]

It was obvious those claims were bullshit anyway, but gee, at least we could have seen Canna and Ariaudo play together a few times. But now that plan is shot.

Araiudo will end up exactly like Criscito. And honestly, I'll stop giving a damn about the stupid Primavera. Just scrap that crap.

Marchisio, Giovinco, De Ceglie.

 

[Azzurri7]

This has to be the most stupid thing if we send him on loan

 

[Esteban]

Loaning out Ariaudo in order to gain some Serie A experience makes perfect sense. Good move.

 

[faank]

why not trust Ferrara's choices as to who should be a member of the first team? Maddaloni and Ferrara knows all our youngsters very well, probably better than all of you. try him in LB? how many times did you see him playing as a fullback that makes you so sure that he would be great there? if Ferrara believes that Ariaudo would be better off with a year on loan, so be it. he would probably rot on the bench for the whole season anyway. keep in mind, this is not England; in Italy there is not a reserve championship where the youngsters have the possibility to excel with some of the first team players week in week out. those who are too old for the Primavera - what should they do? I believe that this is a good system considering the circumstances. btw, at least it is Serie A team.

 

[Bjerknes]

Who gives a RAT FUCK about experience?

Haven't you people ever heard of something called BUILDING A TEAM?

If you loan out your players constantly, how the hell are you going to get them used to being part of the team, forming partnerships with the players on said team, and building for the future? How are they going to even feel like they're part of the team if you always loan them out? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Again, the clubs in Europe with the best youth systems never loan out their young starlets. Never. Hmm, wonder why.

Even Inter don't loan out Balotelli and Santon.

But it's only the idiots at Juventus(z) who approve of this nonsense.