London blasts cause chaos on Tube (8 Viewers)

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#42
Oh, of course. Yeah.. oil.. how silly of me. We invaded Iraq because of oil. Right. Is that your answer to everything?

Anyway if you'd rather we stood back and did nothing then I'm fully supportive of that viewpoint. There doesn't seem to be much point attempting to make the world a better place, it just brings out the worst in people.

Chx, your last point about people feeling British.. thats no excuse for terrorism surely. If they don't feel british they are more than welcome to fvck off back to where they came from but blowing themselves up onm buses isn't helping anybody
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#43
++ [ originally posted by Chxta ] ++


It is British kids who don't feel British. I have relatives who were born and bred in Britain, and whenever they come to Nigeria, they feel more at home. So the question should be why is it that they feel more at home in an 'alien' country? Those youngmen who went to Pakistan before blowing themselves up felt alien in Britain, they felt unwanted. And that is why it was easy for the mullahs to brainwash them in the first place. Had they felt very British, I can guarantee that they wouldn't have done what they did. But I don't understand the black guy's beef!
Bullshit.

Not for a second can England be critised for unwanting foreigners. Simply not the case and you will find the majority of muslims in Britain are proud to be British and take you to court if you say otherwise.
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#44
What have we gained?

Really. We have spent billions on the war, lost many soldiers, had our country attacked and I dont see any fvcking oil.

Wheres our oil you bastards? :D
 
Feb 26, 2005
591
#45
++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++
Anyway if you'd rather we stood back and did nothing then I'm fully supportive of that viewpoint. There doesn't seem to be much point attempting to make the world a better place, it just brings out the worst in people.
WHO THE FUCK ASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FIRST PLACE?
 
Feb 26, 2005
591
#46
++ [ originally posted by Emma ] ++
What have we gained?

Really. We have spent billions on the war, lost many soldiers, had our country attacked and I dont see any fvcking oil.

Wheres our oil you bastards? :D
Just you wait. How many British firms have gotten those lucrative reconstruction contracts hmm? The Americans will soon pull a Tom and Jerry on you guys. And all you'll be able to do is splutter indignantly "We 'ad a deal mate!!":D
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#47
++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++


WHO THE FUASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Well, the Iraqi people wanted us to invade and remove Saddam after the Gulf War. Are you actually suggesting they wanted to remain under his tenure?
 

#10

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2002
7,377
#48
From all account the bombing were done by UK citizens who were muslim extremists.

The iraq war is a reason for it, but it has been brewing for a long time. Asian communities live in "Ghetto" like areas, alienating themselves from local culture.

By not adapting to local culture and living by their own agendas alienates them form british culture.

If u move to another nation, u should try and adapt to the new cultures.

Oftne these muslims groups fail to do so.

I am of part iranian origin, and have witnessed muslim groups alientate themselves. In doing so they have often become ngry with british culture fueling hatred for western ways which conflict with thier beliefs.

Breaking up these ghetto's and allowing the muslim culture to properly integrate into modern british society will go a long way in reducing problems such as home grown islamic extremists, but also help provide other non-muslim social groups a better understanding.
 
Feb 26, 2005
591
#49
++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++
Well, the Iraqi people wanted us to invade and remove Saddam after the Gulf War. Are you actually suggesting they wanted to remain under his tenure?
Well, seeing as American and British occupation of their country and tanks tearing up their infrastructure are so much more to their liking, given the number of "America must go now" protests that have been broken up by American and British troops firing into the crowds, I'm sure they are very happy with the new arrangement.
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#50
Maybe Ive watched too many James Bomb movies, but your telling me in this day and age, with this technology and obvious advantage over the opposition, we couldnt remove Saddam and install our own government without fvcking the country right over?

The 'elite guard' were hardly elite at all. Surely it could have been easier.

Oh wait America tried that with Bin Laden and that worked a treat didnt it? :wallbang:
 

#10

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2002
7,377
#51
++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++


Just you wait. How many British firms have gotten those lucrative reconstruction contracts hmm? The Americans will soon pull a Tom and Jerry on you guys. And all you'll be able to do is splutter indignantly "We 'ad a deal mate!!":D
who else are u going to give the lucrative contract to??

Is their any suitable iraqi firms left?
 
Feb 26, 2005
591
#52
++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++


who else are u going to give the lucrative contract to??

Is their any suitable iraqi firms left?
No, there are no local firms still standing, so all the contracts that have been awarded so far have gone to American firms. The British are yet to even have a sniff.
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#53
Please. You are going to compare some construction contracts to the billions upon billions we have blown?

What are guys building over there? Our reciepts seem misarranged.

And where is the oil? Seriously, we should be swimming in it by now? :D
 

Mr. Gol

Senior Member
Sep 15, 2004
3,472
#54
Calm down. It wasn't like Tom's post was that offensive. And to answer your question, the world's population did. Although you might not want to believe it, there are plenty of people in Iraq who were happy with Saddam being thrown in jail.

I'm getting tired of people claiming these terrorist attacks are justified because America and England invaded Iraq. What did John Doe who died on July 9th do to deserve death? A lot of innocent people die every day in Iraq, true, but at least the soldiers there have an objective. Do you actually think that killing random people every day will prevent the US from starting another war?
 

#10

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2002
7,377
#55
++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++


No, there are no local firms still standing, so all the contracts that have been awarded so far have gone to American firms. The British are yet to even have a sniff.
Us british firms do not offer the same scale as the USA firms. The scale of redevelopment is huge.

As the americans have the best outfits anyway, its probably wiser they get them.

Or would u prefer the contract sto be given to rookies or cowboys?

At some point british contsultants will be called in for the specialised jobs, but i doubt many of the large contract would go to a british firm.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,786
#56
Terrorist attacks like those recently in London are never justified. You can never justify a group of people who feel morally entitled to massacre others as a way to assuage their own feelings of humiliation.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
#57
++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++


No, there are no local firms still standing, so all the contracts that have been awarded so far have gone to American firms. The British are yet to even have a sniff.
Drugs? :D
 

Emma

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2004
3,753
#58
They can never win, thats impossible. But you cant blame some for trying.

As against terrorism and these attacks as you can be, you cant deny for a moment that if it was the other way around you would have the same opinion.

If a country took control of England and killed our civilians to that level, we would have many suicide bombers going there to take out as many of them as we could and we would put their names on a monument.
 
Feb 26, 2005
591
#59
++ [ originally posted by Mr. Gol ] ++
I'm getting tired of people claiming these terrorist attacks are justified because America and England invaded Iraq. What did John Doe who died on July 9th do to deserve death? A lot of innocent people die every day in Iraq, true, but at least the soldiers there have an objective. Do you actually think that killing random people every day will prevent the US from starting another war?
How can you say that it's wrong for the "terrorists" to kill innocent people in London, but that it's okay for soldiers to kill innocent people in Baghdad? Are you saying that the innocent of London are more valuable than the innocent of Baghdad?
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
4,734
#60
I can understand (though do not agree) people who acuse bush and blair of being akin to terrorists... But the absolute ignorance and sheer fvcking stupidity of comparing british or american soldiers (men who did not ask to be there, men that do not want to be there, men who are purely doing their duty.. men who are doing their job... no more , no less) to terrorists is absolutely fvcking unbelievable... Completely ridiculous
 

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