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Pegi

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Feb 22, 2019
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He said that "we did everything we could" which is obviously a lie. If they did everything they could, he would still be in Barcelona. There just isn't scenario where he will end up being PSG player if they made the deal earlier, like prioritized the deal before anybody. They were still fighting about the money, Messi and his father probably demanded such a high amount of money that it took longer and longer and now they couldn't finalize it, even they were down for reducing the salary. He even said he wanted to go not too long ago, but changed his mind. He prob already entertained the idea enough he said he was going to go, so it didn't even feel that bad in the end when it became reality. If he didn't shed a tear, it would have been comical so he had to. When the appreciation started, when they were clapping for a good minute then he was genuinely crying because, that's the appreciation. Of course that feels different compared to own feelings, because it's the emotions of someome else and you see someone being sad about your leaving, it's always difficult but in his personal note, im quite sure he's not that sad to actually go.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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So Barcelona has a 115% salary to revenue ratio.
La Liga has imposed a 70% cap on salary from next season.
So even if Messi would have agreed to play fo free that only makes barca salary cap go to 95%, still far off from their 70%.
Taken from their forum.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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So Barcelona has a 115% salary to revenue ratio.
La Liga has imposed a 70% cap on salary from next season.
So even if Messi would have agreed to play fo free that only makes barca salary cap go to 95%, still far off from their 70%.
Taken from their forum.
I really do not see the issue here if Messi wanted to play for free. Barca has issue with other players they might not need and should not register.
Messi just did not want to lower his salary enough. If both parties wanted Messi to stay there are ways to do it. You are telling me that Aguero is more important than Messi to them?

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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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I really do not see the issue here if Messi wanted to play for free. Barca has issue with other players they might not need and should not register.
Messi just did not want to lower his salary enough. If both parties wanted Messi to stay there are ways to do it. You are telling me that Aguero is more important than Messi to them?

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I don't know what the deal is. Maybe they signed the contract with aguero and depay before that 70% cap became official.

Some other rumors say that Thebas la liga president, conditioned the re-signing of Messi by Barca agreeing the CVC deal which would oust Barca from a potential Super League in the next 50 years. Laporta choosed the Super League project which means they are confident it's going to happen or they are confident of winning the case against the breakaway clubs.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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I don't think anyone will take that much of a pay cut to stay in any job. Its likely that he loves his time on the pitch and with the fans but it must burn how the club would benefit from marketing his name whilst constantly degrading the team around him. Also, the other highly paid players are just not doing enough so why would he care.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I don't think anyone will take that much of a pay cut to stay in any job. Its likely that he loves his time on the pitch and with the fans but it must burn how the club would benefit from marketing his name whilst constantly degrading the team around him. Also, the other highly paid players are just not doing enough so why would he care.
Messi is one of the reasons the club is such a mess.
And he is not lowering his salary from 10 000 euros monthly to 2000 euros. He is lowering it from 100 million euros to 50 million yearly. LOL. What a sacrifice, indeed.

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Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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Messi is one of the reasons the club is such a mess.
And he is not lowering his salary from 10 000 euros monthly to 2000 euros. He is lowering it from 100 million euros to 50 million yearly. LOL. What a sacrifice, indeed.

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What about buying underwhelming players like Griezmann, Coutinho and Dembele for their prices and those wages - what's that got to do with Messi? Also, you underestimate how important Messi is on the pitch, that will hurt Barcelona more than anything.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Why should he lower his salary when he’s one of the most in demand players in the world?
good point. he could lower his salary according to the covid effects (which is said to be about ~30%), and in case all the other team mates agree to do so. i think this is inevitable for some teams, and it's also sensible. but halving your salary just because your club is not only effected by covid, but also heavily mismanaged, that's a completely different story. i wouldn't expect anyone to do that.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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Why should he lower his salary when he’s one of the most in demand players in the world?
To stay in Barca that he so loves, as he claims. Why else?
Do you need 50 million euros to love anything, when you have 1 billion already? At which point the ultra rich lose touch with reality?

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Arcticdaly

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Oct 3, 2018
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Are we supposed to just forget that he tried to leave on free last year and now he says he did everything he could too stay and never wanted to leave hmm:baus: Also that is pretty quick contract to be done in a couple of days with that much huge money

 
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pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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Are we supposed to just forget that he tried to leave on free last year and now he says he did everything he could too stay and never wanted to leave hmm:baus: Also that is pretty quick contarct to be done in a couple of days with that much huge money

Great acting with the tears. I had more respect for Messi before this.
He will never be the GOAT as Ronaldo will never be the GOAT, because both of them are mercenaries and depend heavily on the team playing for them.
Maradona elevated Napoli to a world class team. A true GOAT.

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ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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To stay in Barca that he so loves, as he claims. Why else?
Do you need 50 million euros to love anything, when you have 1 billion already? At which point the ultra rich lose touch with reality?

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he’s not a billionaire. But yeah, I wouldn’t do my job for free, especially not to help a company that is in shit condition because they’re mismanaged and keep dumping money on bad workers. Is he overpaid? Yeah sure but that’s what he’s worth and other teams will pay it so why not get it
 

Arcticdaly

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Oct 3, 2018
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he’s not a billionaire. But yeah, I wouldn’t do my job for free, especially not to help a company that is in shit condition because they’re mismanaged and keep dumping money on bad workers. Is he overpaid? Yeah sure but that’s what he’s worth and other teams will pay it so why not get it
Other teams u say but its only PSG that could afford him. He is going to the worst and least watched league in the world to finish he's career playing for a souless oil fc club.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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he’s not a billionaire. But yeah, I wouldn’t do my job for free, especially not to help a company that is in shit condition because they’re mismanaged and keep dumping money on bad workers. Is he overpaid? Yeah sure but that’s what he’s worth and other teams will pay it so why not get it
He made more than 0.5 billion in salaries after taxes from Barca. I can only imagine how much money he has made from other sources.
Barca is not exactly a failing company that exploited him. It practically gave him more than he deserved as he is one of the reasons they are in such dire conditions.
You should put the things into perspective. As I said he is not your average worker overused and abused by the corporate machine.

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