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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#23
According to the latest Microsoft press release, late 2007. But some research bureau recently said that they should postpone it into 2008 and Microsoft apparently said they agreed with the sentiment, so it may not be until 2008.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#24
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


The only problem is that their products are over-priced
That's a bit exaggerated. If you compared Apple products with lower-end no-name PCs, then yes.

However, compare Apple computers for example, with Dell and you'll see that they are the same. In fact, when comparing, I've found that Dell was a bit more expensive when looking at what was in the pacakge.

Dell (USA prices at least) are supposed to have good deals.

Sony have rediculous prices.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Yes, but the range of available software is much more limited.
Not "much" more. I've found pretty much everything i was looking for, for the OS X.

The only thing I didn't find was a MAC version for CoolStreaming.

In anycase, I've found many great apps for MAC like: Desktop Manager. This apps gives you the multipule desktop solution like you'd see on Linux and Solaris.

Name and application, and I'm sure there's something similar for MAC OSX.

Besides, X11 that comes with the OS install CD makes it possible to port Linux apps to MAC. Check This.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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#26
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


That's a bit exaggerated. If you compared Apple products with lower-end no-name PCs, then yes.

However, compare Apple computers for example, with Dell and you'll see that they are the same. In fact, when comparing, I've found that Dell was a bit more expensive when looking at what was in the pacakge.

Dell (USA prices at least) are supposed to have good deals.

Sony have rediculous prices.

Let us not keep it on the hardware level, shall we?

Adobe products are more expensive under MacOS than on PC, this is an example. Then for PC, you can find free applications that are pretty much handy. Then you have the opne-source products. All these are absent on a Mac OS.

I don't think what I said is exaggerated, as all computer products wether hardware or software are overpriced, with Apple products a bit more than the others.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#27
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Not "much" more. I've found pretty much everything i was looking for, for the OS X.

The only thing I didn't find was a MAC version for CoolStreaming.

In anycase, I've found many great apps for MAC like: Desktop Manager. This apps gives you the multipule desktop solution like you'd see on Linux and Solaris.

Name and application, and I'm sure there's something similar for MAC OSX.
Matlab and Mathematica would be the two I couldn't live without.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#28
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Not "much" more. I've found pretty much everything i was looking for, for the OS X.

The only thing I didn't find was a MAC version for CoolStreaming.

In anycase, I've found many great apps for MAC like: Desktop Manager. This apps gives you the multipule desktop solution like you'd see on Linux and Solaris.

Name and application, and I'm sure there's something similar for MAC OSX.

Besides, X11 that comes with the OS install CD makes it possible to port Linux apps to MAC. Check This.
How do you like playing apologist? :p
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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#30
++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Matlab and Mathematica would be the two I couldn't live without.
I have both on my linux box, which means in all likelihood they can be run on MacOSX as well, though I can't be bothered to actually check :p

Mathcad is Windows only, though, as far as I know (I know what you're thinking; how unprofessional :D)
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#31
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



Let us not keep it on the hardware level, shall we?

Adobe products are more expensive under MacOS than on PC, this is an example. Then for PC, you can find free applications that are pretty much handy. Then you have the opne-source products. All these are absent on a Mac OS.

I don't think what I said is exaggerated, as all computer products wether hardware or software are overpriced, with Apple products a bit more than the others.
Sure! Apps it is then... (your assumption had a better chance of holding water if we stuck with Hardware ;))

#1 I wouldn't doubt that Adobe is more expensive of the MAC because it has more features. Believe it or not, but "Microsoft Office:MAC" has more features that the windows MS Office.

#2 There are shit loads of free OSX apps out there. You never looked. Try versiontracker.com

#3 Read my reply to John.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#32
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
I have both on my linux box, which means in all likelihood they can be run on MacOSX as well, though I can't be bothered to actually check :p

Mathcad is Windows only, though, as far as I know (I know what you're thinking; how unprofessional :D)
Fair enough. For the purposes of college though, there'd be issues with having to buy seperate Mac and PC licences. :(
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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#33
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Sure! Apps it is then... (your assumption had a better chance of holding water if we stuck with Hardware ;))

#1 I wouldn't doubt that Adobe is more expensive of the MAC because it has more features. Believe it or not, but "Microsoft Office:MAC" has more features that the windows MS Office.

#2 There are shit loads of free OSX apps out there. You never looked. Try versiontracker.com

#3 Read my reply to John.
Actually I replied while you are replying to John, so I thought there was no need editing my post. I got what you meant in that post. Still does not change my view that they are over-priced, hardware or software.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#34
++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Matlab and Mathematica would be the two I couldn't live without.
Mathematica is available on OS X. :lazy:

I'll have to check about Matlab.

.......

You guys just love the assumptions don't you?
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#35
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Actually I replied while you are replying to John, so I thought there was no need editing my post. I got what you meant in that post. Still does not change my view that they are over-priced, hardware or software.
Oh, so you made up your mind and the evidence and proof doesn't matter.

Great arguing with you then! :)
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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#37
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Oh, so you made up your mind and the evidence and proof doesn't matter.

Great arguing with you then! :)
Who's arguing? I see them as over-priced, you don't. It's all relative on one's own budget, isn't it?
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#38
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Mathematica is available on OS X. :lazy:

I'll have to check about Matlab.

.......

You guys just love the assumptions don't you?
Just checked. Matlab 7.1 (latest) is also availble on OS X without using X11.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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#39
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

Who's arguing? I see them as over-priced, you don't. It's all relative on one's own budget, isn't it?
For you, ok. I'd take that. In comparision with the general brand names, no.

Thanks for the clarification.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#40
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


Just checked. Matlab 7.1 (latest) is also availble on OS X without using X11.
Good stuff. What about Labview? There's also no end of programmable hardware that I'm not aware of having a Mac equivalent.
 

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