Lilian Thuram: best defender in the world? (1 Viewer)

[Zlatan]

Parma, 35 mil €

 

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[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


That's not exactly true. I mean, Thuram is better than Zanetti, and there are many better than Nesta...

Oh C'mon tell me Why ain't Zanetti better than thuram and who is better than Nesta.??

I dare you can come up with someone better than nesta!!

 

[slack]

++ [ originally posted by Aragorn ] ++
But nothing Compared to Maldini.

Its obvious that playing for a legendary side has certain advantages. The simple fact is that Thuram has been to France what Maldini is for Milan. Suffice to say that you prefer Maldini and that's about the only justification you have in saying what you said. Btw, Thuram was pretty damn fantastic for Parma as well but merely lacked the reputation leverage which the likes of Juve/Milan clearly provides.

Zanetti may be more adept in a midfield role but there's no evidence to suggest that he's a better defender. As for the comparison to Nesta, the only thing he has over our Frenchman is being infinitely dirtier. Thuram has all the footballing qualities to be a fabulous centrehalf but somehow, his teams always have a greater need for him as a rightback. For a qualified footballing opinion on the Frenchman as a centrehalf, trawl the archives for Cannavaro's.

By all accounts, Thuram is top-notch as a person as well and while that may not necessarily mean much to some, it does for me.

 

[Torkel]

++ [ originally posted by Aragorn ] ++
I dare you can come up with someone better than nesta!!

It's hard to judge, because there are players that come close, and then personal preference will decide. I think Samuel is more or less on Nestas level.

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++
like who? jaap stam?

i don't say that nesta is the best but i disagree with 'many' part

Jaap is one, Cannavaro is another, also Chivu, Samuel (despite his lack of class), and Ferdinand are better. Or is that not enough to qualify as many?

 

[desireless]

I guess Thuram doesn't really need the recognition from FIFA to be the best in his field. If Pele said that his worst nightmare was to go head to head with Franz Beckenbauer, well for Thuram, he makes nightmare for Zidane.

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


Jaap is one, Cannavaro is another, also Chivu, Samuel (despite his lack of class), and Ferdinand are better. Or is that not enough to qualify as many?

none of those are in Nesta's league and class, may be samuel is close but still nesta is better.

 

[#10]

samuel is not in nesta ferdinand cannvaro class.....simply a thug.lol ok, he is prety gud but u cant say he is in their league....

imo Ferdinand is the best...shame he is a Utd player:down:

 

[#10]

oh and zanetti is no way beter than thuram as a defender......no way!imo

zanetti is the bettter wing back and midfielder, but in purely defnesive terms, he is nowhere near thurams class.imo

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by slack ] ++

Its obvious that playing for a legendary side has certain advantages. The simple fact is that Thuram has been to France what Maldini is for Milan. Suffice to say that you prefer Maldini and that's about the only justification you have in saying what you said. Btw, Thuram was pretty damn fantastic for Parma as well but merely lacked the reputation leverage which the likes of Juve/Milan clearly provides.

Zanetti may be more adept in a midfield role but there's no evidence to suggest that he's a better defender. As for the comparison to Nesta, the only thing he has over our Frenchman is being infinitely dirtier. Thuram has all the footballing qualities to be a fabulous centrehalf but somehow, his teams always have a greater need for him as a rightback. For a qualified footballing opinion on the Frenchman as a centrehalf, trawl the archives for Cannavaro's.

By all accounts, Thuram is top-notch as a person as well and while that may not necessarily mean much to some, it does for me.

Forget about Maldini, Thuram's dream would be becoming half what maldini is. He is one of a kind, a True legend.

I have been following both Thuram and Zanetti for sometime now, honestly Zanetti impressed me most. the guy is a true leader. perfect defensively and offensively for both Inter and Argentina. he has the spirit of a champion which i think thuram lacks.

oh c'mon Nesta is dirty Go watch some footy, start following the Azzurri and milan and you will see what i mean.

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++
samuel is not in nesta ferdinand cannvaro class.....simply a thug.lol ok, he is prety gud but u cant say he is in their league....

imo Ferdinand is the best...shame he is a Utd player:down:

I wonder why do you guys Consider Ferdinand that good. ??

 

[Zlatan]

I think he's overrated

 

[#10]

y ferdinand is the best????

pace,stragnth, good timer of a tackle, great touch, leadership,explicit aerial ability, great tactical awareness, great engine,awsome!!!but i guess i would be biased

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Aragorn ] ++


Forget about Maldini, Thuram's dream would be becoming half what maldini is. He is one of a kind, a True legend.

I have been following both Thuram and Zanetti for sometime now, honestly Zanetti impressed me most. the guy is a true leader. perfect defensively and offensively for both Inter and Argentina. he has the spirit of a champion which i think thuram lacks.

oh c'mon Nesta is dirty Go watch some footy, start following the Azzurri and milan and you will see what i mean.

you're so stubborn. you base all your statements on your opinion and not on valid grounds. just for once, admit that you might be wrong.

 

[slack]

++ [ originally posted by Aragorn ] ++
Forget about Maldini, Thuram's dream would be becoming half what maldini is. He is one of a kind, a True legend.

I have been following both Thuram and Zanetti for sometime now, honestly Zanetti impressed me most. the guy is a true leader. perfect defensively and offensively for both Inter and Argentina. he has the spirit of a champion which i think thuram lacks.

oh c'mon Nesta is dirty Go watch some footy, start following the Azzurri and milan and you will see what i mean.

Fliakis is right. You should insert ‘I think’ into every absolute sentence you make since you don’t seem to like substantiating your damning verdicts.

I find the way you describe ‘champions spirits’ highly fascinating. Could you elaborate more on how you arrived at that particular conclusion? Of course, you could avoid doing so by stating that as purely an opinion. Again, it’ll be nice to do so.

I don’t need you to tell me where/how I should watch football. For one who has followed Nesta for as long as you must have to rate him that highly, I can only gather that you must have a very loose definition of the word ‘dirty’. My take is he’s about half the player he is less those. I mean, it must be an integral part of his game/effectiveness that he has to resort to doing so.

 

[Layce Erayce]

roberto carlos is weird. he is the bird without wings who still beats the hell out of cats.

he cant defend for shit despite being a defender. and people still love him!

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Aragorn ] ++
none of those are in Nesta's league and class, may be samuel is close but still nesta is better.

Come on. Nesta was better when he was at Lazio and he wasn't even the best in the world then.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


Come on. Nesta was better when he was at Lazio and he wasn't even the best in the world then.

woooow. bull's eye.

eat this agragormingmon

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by slack ] ++


Fliakis is right. You should insert ‘I think’ into every absolute sentence you make since you don’t seem to like substantiating your damning verdicts.

I find the way you describe ‘champions spirits’ highly fascinating. Could you elaborate more on how you arrived at that particular conclusion? Of course, you could avoid doing so by stating that as purely an opinion. Again, it’ll be nice to do so.

I don’t need you to tell me where/how I should watch football. For one who has followed Nesta for as long as you must have to rate him that highly, I can only gather that you must have a very loose definition of the word ‘dirty’. My take is he’s about half the player he is less those. I mean, it must be an integral part of his game/effectiveness that he has to resort to doing so.

I inserted "I think" Once in the whole thing, so what's the problem with that. yeah Zanetti is more of a champion than Thuram, may be this is due to the different roles each one has at his own club or NT. Zanetti is the captain for both Inter and the NT. and he is doing perfect. for Thuram i can't say the same. so far i have seen one good season of him which was last season. I don't know about his parma days but they certainly can't be compared to those of zanetti at Inter. the Lattre spent all his career there. doing just great. As far as national teams are concerned i must admit that Thuram was a great assest for france to win both WC98 and Euro 2000. but that doesn't make him better than Zanetti. the latter was also effective and vital for all Argentina's succes. as i told you i have been following both for sometime now and I see zanetti the better player. Of course that's my opinion and everyone is entitiled to his. one more thing you are all baised concerning Thuram because he is a Juventus player. since he joined us he had one good season, did you forget that we wanted to get rid of him after his awful first season.? In the current season he didn't show last season's form yet.

As for Nesta a blind man can see that Nesta is the best CB in the world, i have been following him since his lazio days for about 5 years now, and i know what i am talking about. well i don't know what do you mean by the word Dirty. but as far as dirtiness is concerned he Is the least dirty player of all those you mentioned specially Samuel and Ferdinand.

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


Come on. Nesta was better when he was at Lazio and he wasn't even the best in the world then.

Yeah he was, recently both him and Maldini were responsible for Milan success in the CL. If it wasn't for him, they wouldn't have reached the 2nd round nor win the tournament.

Tell me Who is/was the best now and then ??