Lessons from Milan? (2 Viewers)

[Hust]

The thing is Sergio, in this Civil War at 'tuz, there are much more on the other side than our side, and that get's frustrating. It's like bi-partisan politics when the opposite side refuses to acknowledge your view, regardless.

 

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[KB824]

The thing is Sergio, in this Civil War at 'tuz, there are much more on the other side than our side, and that get's frustrating. It's like bi-partisan politics when the opposite side refuses to acknowledge your view, regardless.

But that's exactly the problem.

Sides are being drawn up, it seems, and there shouldn't be.


I'm not on anyone's side. I'm tying in the best way I know how to look at both sides of the coin.

 

[Hust]

But that's exactly the problem.

Sides are being drawn up, it seems, and there shouldn't be.


I'm not on anyone's side. I'm tying in the best way I know how to look at both sides of the coin.

People love to spin things. Now we are seeing the anti-marotta slogans and avatars coming out, crazy conspiracy theories, etc. It's annoying. People would much rather cause a stir than try and look at the bright side of things....like for instance, we have no debt, something the biggest clubs in Europe are growing in and all the while building a brand new state of the art stadium, again something teams in Italy just don't have. We are Green while others are Red...and for that I will suffer as a result and be patient for our time to come again.

 

[Bianconero81]

You are naive. All the big clubs will find a way around their debts. UEFA needs the big clubs, because it is they that generate interest in the sport. Do you really think UEFA would allow clubs like Milan, Madrid, Inter, Barca, and Liverpool to go under? No one is going to be interested in watching a Nice vs Hammarby tie; I can guarantee you that.

When it comes to stadiums, we are not the only big club in Europe who have our own stadium, so I won't laud that achievement just yet. Let's just hope the stadium gets completed on time, as we would then be the first team to own and operate our own stadium in Italy, an accomplishment in itself.

 

[Gamaro]

Juve > Milan

And Berlescuni learnt from Ganni Agnelli.

 

[Bozi]

People love to spin things. Now we are seeing the anti-marotta slogans and avatars coming out, crazy conspiracy theories, etc. It's annoying. People would much rather cause a stir than try and look at the bright side of things....like for instance, we have no debt, something the biggest clubs in Europe are growing in and all the while building a brand new state of the art stadium, again something teams in Italy just don't have. We are Green while others are Red...and for that I will suffer as a result and be patient for our time to come again.

top post,this is the "problem" but it is also the solution

Italian football in general is in the doldrums,Inter have their sugar daddy (as we once did) and Milan have a man who takes every opportunity to grab a headline. we at juve,we are building the foundations for a solid club again,once we gain CL football again we will be a ble to attract the bigger name players again but we will also have a squad of good players as back-up. look back at the great Juve squads,yes they had star names but hey also had squads full of players who would have been starters at any other club.

when the new stricter rules regarding club finances come into force a lot of clubs are going to be struggling to explain some of their transactions,we will have a balanced account,a new stadium and the funds to attract top platyers.

right now we are a shade of our former glory,but I am in it for the long haul

 

[Bozi]

You are naive. All the big clubs will find a way around their debts. UEFA needs the big clubs, because it is they that generate interest in the sport. Do you really think UEFA would allow clubs like Milan, Madrid, Inter, Barca, and Liverpool to go under? No one is going to be interested in watching a Nice vs Hammarby tie; I can guarantee you that.

When it comes to stadiums, we are not the only big club in Europe who have our own stadium, so I won't laud that achievement just yet. Let's just hope the stadium gets completed on time, as we would then be the first team to own and operate our own stadium in Italy, an accomplishment in itself.

do you honestly think that football can continue in the way it is right now? liverpool,Manure,etc are all in horrendous amounts of debt,the premier league is reaching the point where it will imlode,Blackpools chairman stepped down because he refused to play the game the way other clubs play it,that should tell you there is something massively wrong there. when the bubble bursts the fall-out will he horrendous, UEFA are trying to force clubs to be more responsible before they shoot off their own faces.

look at the level of debt Barca are sitting at,this is the real reason Milan have got Zlatanm at a knock-down price,they were desperate to get him off the wage bill. it is highly possible that for footballing reasons he might have been a great player to keep but they simply cannot keep a hold of him and his wages

 

[Zé Tahir]

top post,this is the "problem" but it is also the solution

Italian football in general is in the doldrums,Inter have their sugar daddy (as we once did) and Milan have a man who takes every opportunity to grab a headline. we at juve,we are building the foundations for a solid club again,once we gain CL football again we will be a ble to attract the bigger name players again but we will also have a squad of good players as back-up. look back at the great Juve squads,yes they had star names but hey also had squads full of players who would have been starters at any other club.

when the new stricter rules regarding club finances come into force a lot of clubs are going to be struggling to explain some of their transactions,we will have a balanced account,a new stadium and the funds to attract top platyers.

right now we are a shade of our former glory,but I am in it for the long haul

 

[JCK]

You are naive.

And you are not.

 

[Salvo]

completely 100% correct Boz.

 

[torricelli_juve]

You are naive. All the big clubs will find a way around their debts. UEFA needs the big clubs, because it is they that generate interest in the sport. Do you really think UEFA would allow clubs like Milan, Madrid, Inter, Barca, and Liverpool to go under? No one is going to be interested in watching a Nice vs Hammarby tie; I can guarantee you that.

When it comes to stadiums, we are not the only big club in Europe who have our own stadium, so I won't laud that achievement just yet. Let's just hope the stadium gets completed on time, as we would then be the first team to own and operate our own stadium in Italy, an accomplishment in itself.

I don't think the UEFA or FIFA could do anything if the clubs went into financial troubles. The new regulations are trying to prevent this from happening. And once the bankruptcy happens, there is no way UEFA can/would salvage them. They are not the government and they don't have a huge reserve to bail out the football clubs.

And you think the game would be less attractive with those "big clubs" going under? and UEFA would do something to save them? I don't think life has changed very much to football fans (except us of coz) seeing Juve relegated.

 

[Alen]

No one is going to be interested in watching a Nice vs Hammarby tie; I can guarantee you that.

Everyone will if the best players are there.

If 2-3 big clubs go bankrupt, then the players from those big clubs will still have to play somewhere. And because of the players, fans will start following those "new" teams.

Actually, put Chelsea and Real in a lower division and distribute their players around Europe, and you suddenly get at least 7-8 more attractive clubs.

Never as in the last years the quality players, all of them, have been shared between 5-6 clubs only, with some 3-4 teams having 80% of all the superstars.
Back in the days the limit on foreigners was preventing a club from creating an international world class starting XI and a world class bench. Now nobody can stop Real from paying 25m eur for a sub player and that sub player will warm the bench in Madrid instead of playing for Ajax or Dortmund and make those teams much better.
With the new rule Real won't be able to buy anything that moves and they won't be able to afford the luxury to overpay for a bench player. That guy, instead of being bought by Real will need to play somewhere else and will play somewhere else.

 

[JCK]

Reasoning with Bianconero81

 

[tpain]

Reasoning with Bianconero81

yea man its like eating a hippo

 

[Nenz]

What's the new rule going to be specifically and when does it come into effect?

 

[Red]

Never as in the last years the quality players, all of them, have been shared between 5-6 clubs only, with some 3-4 teams having 80% of all the superstars.
Back in the days the limit on foreigners was preventing a club from creating an international world class starting XI and a world class bench. Now nobody can stop Real from paying 25m eur for a sub player and that sub player will warm the bench in Madrid instead of playing for Ajax or Dortmund and make those teams much better.
With the new rule Real won't be able to buy anything that moves and they won't be able to afford the luxury to overpay for a bench player. That guy, instead of being bought by Real will need to play somewhere else and will play somewhere else.

That's what I really want from the new rules.

It'll be great if smaller clubs can hold on to top players for longer and the leagues become more competitive.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

LOL @ Bianconero81

Absolutely retarded post mate. UEFA are bringing these new laws in whether you want to believe it or not, and the clubs will HAVE To tow the line.

 

[Hust]

That's what I really want from the new rules.

It'll be great if smaller clubs can hold on to top players for longer and the leagues become more competitive.

Similar to Germany (I think).