Leonardo Bonucci (80 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Some people said that it’s very good he’s back because when teams press us he will take the pressure of with his long range balls. Guess what. Nevermind

To be fair to him, Mandzuking wasnt there

 

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[Zacheryah]

No shit. But it helps tuz to cope with the loss if they can blame it on their most hated player, even if it wasn't his fault at all that we are out now.

Normal tuz behaviour to single out one player and make him the scapegoat for a team failure, and not even based on his performance, but on personal bias only. 100% Predictable that his thread was going to attract all kinds of sour users in case of a loss.

Its incredibly annoyinh.

We lost and played poor. Lets now all cope by beeing extremely mad at some player regardless of his performance but because we dont like him.

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To be fair to him, Mandzuking wasnt there

Or any winger in a high position instead of clogging the midfield close to its markers

 

[athas]

No shit. But it helps tuz to cope with the loss if they can blame it on their most hated player, even if it wasn't his fault at all that we are out now.

Normal tuz behaviour to single out one player and make him the scapegoat for a team failure, and not even based on his performance, but on personal bias only. 100% Predictable that his thread was going to attract all kinds of sour users in case of a loss.

Can you tell me with a straight face that you are confident with him in a big CL match? We lose as a team because we have problems, and Bonucci is one of them. What's wrong when pointing that out and seek solution to improve that?

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I think half of our team need to fuck off personally but Bonucci has been utter dog shit this season. Simple balls rolled into their forwards had him and Rugani looking mentally retarded flailing about getting in each others way.

 

[athas]

The guy that somehow managed a header between Sandro and rugani ?


Yeah.Fucking Bonucci mate.

And that's Rugani's fault, right? When Rugani mark Blind, Bonucci mark no one and jump in only to miss the ball to make that diffficult to another, what a commanding presence.

 

[Bianconero81]

I honestly don't understand those who defend him. He's clearly regressed and been a clear weak-point in this team. Without Chiellini to hold his hand, he's decidedly mediocre.

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Where exactly are you seeing that?

Dai and Zach come to mind. They definitely seem to have some love for this chump.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

I honestly don't understand those who defend him. He's clearly regressed and been a clear weak-point in this team. Without Chiellini to hold his hand, he's decidedly mediocre.

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Dai and Zach come to mind. They definitely seem to have some love for this chump.

Regressed assumes that he was once good, hes a fraud, always has been, when he cant hide behind two of the best CB's in the world his true ability shows

 

[DAiDEViL]

Can you tell me with a straight face that you are confident with him in a big CL match?

I can tell you with a straight face that he wasn't directly responsible that we went out against Ajax, yet i see lot's of users around who make it sound like he was.

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Dai and Zach come to mind. They definitely seem to have some love for this chump.

How? I feel like i'm on the more rational side here, unlike the emotionally driven haters.

 

[Bianconero81]

How? I feel like i'm on the more rational side here, unlike the emotionally driven haters.

I'm not blaming him for yesterday, but I honestly think he's a burden, a liability, a shit defender that can't actually defend. A great partner next to him only serves to mask his deficiencies; when he's paired with another noob, his flaws are visible for all to see.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I'm not blaming him for yesterday, but I honestly think he's a burden, a liability, a shit defender that can't actually defend. A great partner next to him only serves to mask his deficiencies; when he's paired with another noob, his flaws are visible for all to see.

The partner doesn't have to be great, it's ablout the type of defender. Of course he works better next to a Chiello than next to a Rugani (too much of the same, Rugani suffers from that just as much as Bonucci) because they have different characteristics and complement each other. Bonucci-Chiello is still a great CB pairing. That partnership simply works, and has done so in the past as well. The chemistry between the two CB's is more important than the sum of it's parts imo.

 

[Cerval]

The partner doesn't have to be great, it's ablout the type of defender. Of course he works better next to a Chiello than next to a Rugani (too much of the same, Rugani suffers from that just as much as Bonucci) because they have different characteristics and complement each other. Bonucci-Chiello is still a great CB pairing. That partnership simply works, and has done so in the past as well. The chemistry between the two CB's is more important than the sum of it's parts imo.

Here's a novel idea. How about having two defenders that excel at defending? So that we don't have one CB rely on another.

Chiellini-Bonucci is a decent pairing, but it could also be further improved

 

[DAiDEViL]

Here's a novel idea. How about having two defenders that excel at defending? So that we don't have one CB rely on another.

Chiellini-Bonucci is a decent pairing, but it could also be further improved

Sign me a Koulibaly and i'll happily field him instead of Bonucci, but until that happens, our starter CB's are hardly our main problem.

 

[Cerval]

Sign me a Koulibaly and i'll happily field him instead of Bonucci, but until that happens, our starter CB's are hardly our main problem.

Our defence should be priority, we're relying on a 34 years old defender to solve all our problems and he won't be there forever. Chiello can still give us really good perfomances, but we need to do some forward planning. It's shortsighted not to look at it. Besides neither Bonucci and Rugani should start for Juventus in an ideal world

 

[Post Ironic]

Here's a novel idea. How about having two defenders that excel at defending? So that we don't have one CB rely on another.

Chiellini-Bonucci is a decent pairing, but it could also be further improved

C’mon. Chiellini-Bonucci was miles better than decent. It’s great. We got to two CL finals with that pairing, beating teams like Barca and Madrid. Chiellini is one of the best defending CBs on the planet, and Bonucci’s ball skills helped in keeping pressure off our back line and breaking presses. They worked fantastic together for years. But as Barza aged out, not having a proper world class Chiellini back-up has shown just how problematic Bonucci is without a specific partner. Does that lessen how great that pairing was for us? No.

Bonucci mentally crumbling last year at Milan and never really finding his old form once he returned here is the biggest issue, and even so our defensive record is identical to last year. I’d replace him if a fantastic CB came along but the best option would obviously be having Chiellini, Bonucci, Rugani, + a Koulibaly level CB bought this summer

 

[Cerval]

C’mon. Chiellini-Bonucci was miles better than decent. It’s great. We got to two CL finals with that pairing, beating teams like Barca and Madrid. Chiellini is one of the best defending CBs on the planet, and Bonucci’s ball skills helped in keeping pressure off our back line and breaking presses. They worked fantastic together for years. But as Barza aged out, not having a proper world class Chiellini back-up has shown just how problematic Bonucci is without a specific partner. Does that lessen how great that pairing was for us? No.

Bonucci mentally crumbling last year at Milan and never really finding his old form once he returned here is the biggest issue, and even so our defensive record is identical to last year. I’d replace him if a fantastic CB came along but the best option would obviously be having Chiellini, Bonucci, Rugani, + a Koulibaly level CB bought this summer

It could be greater with two defensively great defenders, is all I'm saying.

Besides current Bonucci is more error prone than in 2017 (bar the CL final)

 

[Post Ironic]

It could be greater with two defensively great defenders, is all I'm saying.

Besides current Bonucci is more error prone than in 2017 (bar the CL final)

I’m agreeing with that. Current Bonucci is a joke.

But 2014-2017 Bonucci-Chiellini was fantastic and was a major part of us playing 2 CL finals.

 

[Zacheryah]

And that's Rugani's fault, right? When Rugani mark Blind, Bonucci mark no one and jump in only to miss the ball to make that diffficult to another, what a commanding presence.

@DAiDEViL look at this

 

[IliveForJuve]

The partner doesn't have to be great, it's ablout the type of defender. Of course he works better next to a Chiello than next to a Rugani (too much of the same, Rugani suffers from that just as much as Bonucci) because they have different characteristics and complement each other. Bonucci-Chiello is still a great CB pairing. That partnership simply works, and has done so in the past as well. The chemistry between the two CB's is more important than the sum of it's parts imo.

Even next to Chiello he's become a liability. He's a defender that can't tackle or head the ball. Chiellini can't be babysitting him all the time.

His ball playing abilities are not worth the deficiencies in our defense.

 

[1251alex]

Sell. Sell. Sell.

 

[JCK]

I honestly don't understand those who defend him. He's clearly regressed and been a clear weak-point in this team. Without Chiellini to hold his hand, he's decidedly mediocre.

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Dai and Zach come to mind. They definitely seem to have some love for this chump.

He's also a racist.