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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Are you guys talking about better CB's than Bonucci?

In Italy, there is only one, and he is on the same team. That would be a fully fit Barzagli.

IN England?.............................................. No.

In France? Maybe Thiago Silva

In Spain? Pique, Godin
Terry and Ivanovic are better imo, even if Ivanovic plays mostly on the wing. He's even better as a CB.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
A bit older as well, Bon Bon will only improve.
He's 28 man, you make it sound like he's an upcoming player.

Fact of the matter is, this is typical recency effect bias. The guy had a very good season, and all of a sudden he shits on Europe's best defenders.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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He's 28 man, you make it sound like he's an upcoming player.

Fact of the matter is, this is typical recency effect bias. The guy had a very good season, and all of a sudden he shits on Europe's best defenders.
Terry is 7 years older though. That would mean Bonucci still has 7 seasons in him. That's a long time.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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If we could get enough money for Bonucci to buy Oscar or Isco we would be really stupid if we rejected it. Bonucci is a great centerback but buying top attacking players is expensive and our starting 11 would be much better with Oscar in it than if we had Bonucci at center back instead of Barzagli... Also Rugani will develop into a top centerback and we also have Caceras and Ogbonna. We also have Filippo Romagna ready to soon make the jump to the senior squad and he is a fantastic defender.

30 Million for Bonucci would be an offer we would have to accept imo.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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He's 28 man, you make it sound like he's an upcoming player.

Fact of the matter is, this is typical recency effect bias. The guy had a very good season, and all of a sudden he shits on Europe's best defenders.
Terry is 7 years older though. That would mean Bonucci still has 7 seasons in him. That's a long time.
30-32 are when a defender reaches their peak IMO, especially a CB. He has had a steady growth then exploded this season, if that continues he will cement his spot in that upper echoleon of current defenders.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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With such a strong defensive mid infront of him I am confident Rugani can do a great job as the backup to Chiellini and Barzagli. Is Bonucci a more important player than Oscar or Isco? I really dont think so and I find it hard to think anyone can say we would not be improving the overall squad if we made a move like that happen.

I like Bonucci a lot but I feel people are letting their attachment to the player cloud what should be a crystal clear choice.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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He's 28 man, you make it sound like he's an upcoming player.

Fact of the matter is, this is typical recency effect bias. The guy had a very good season, and all of a sudden he shits on Europe's best defenders.
He doesn't. Terry is indeed a better CB, but it doesn't make sense for Real to approach Chelsea to buy Terry. Bonucci makes more sense for them.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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Yeah, let's rely on Caceras now. The man has started a total of 56 games for us since he came back to us four seasons ago. To put that in perspective, Bonucci started 47 games for us last season. Don't get me started about Ogbonna. Hot again, cold again Chiellini, don't know if he'll stay fit Barzagli, a raw Rugani, always not available Caceras and Ogbonna. Yeah, no thanks.
Selling Bonucci will only make sense if he's incredibly overvalued like Lulz was. For a player who has been a constant in a 4 time scudetto winning team, coming of his strongest season, 30 million would only be slightly above par.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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I feel 30 million euro is a lot for Bonucci who really only had one top season in 5 years with us. That's in the ball park of what Chelsea paid for Cesc and Oscar, what United paid for Van Persie and what Atletico paid for Greizmann.

Bonucci is a good player but he is not in the class as other players for that price.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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David Luiz €62.6m
Andy Carroll €40.9m
Eliaquim Mangala €40m
Axel Witsel €40m
Asier Illarramendi €39m
Luke Shaw €37.4m
Marouane Fellaini €32.4m
James Milner €31.4m
Adam Lallana €31.3m
Shaun Wright-Phillips €30.5m
Danny €30m
Roberto Soldado €30m

The transfer market is bs, let's be honest. We can ask what we want for someone as important as Bonucci.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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David Luiz €62.6m
Andy Carroll €40.9m
Eliaquim Mangala €40m
Axel Witsel €40m
Asier Illarramendi €39m
Luke Shaw €37.4m
Marouane Fellaini €32.4m
James Milner €31.4m
Adam Lallana €31.3m
Shaun Wright-Phillips €30.5m
Danny €30m
Roberto Soldado €30m

The transfer market is bs, let's be honest. We can ask what we want for someone as important as Bonucci.
So then without thinking of transfer fee you wouldn't do a straight swap of Bonucci for Isco?

For me it would be impossible to say no to that.. Isco into the starting 11, Vidal going into the CM position, Barzagli coming in for Bonucci. Rugani as his back up, Caceras 4th choice. Our team would be much stronger than if we kept Vidal at CAM and had Bonucci playing rather than Barzagli.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
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Bonnucci for Isco is a no brainier for sure. I think Ruganis availability will help soften that blow, but Isco's presence in the final third will give us a whole new dimension as an attacking force.

As good as Bonnucci has been this season, that deal would be a win for Juve. For most other swap deals, I'd have to say we rather hold on to Bon Bon.
 

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