Leonardo Bonucci (73 Viewers)

[Klin]

you actually read that?

I couldn't finish the second sentence.

 

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[zizinho]

I couldn't finish the second sentence.

too bad. i wanted someone to summarize that in about 50 sentences to me.

 

[Lion]

too bad. i wanted someone to summarize that in about 50 sentences to me.

-bonucci punching above his weight like legrotagglie
- he can't tackle, head or intercept an ss, but he might be albe to do so.
-he needs to be paired with a good cb to shine in a support role
-he is only currenlty appreciated for his passing game, but maybe next year he will be for his defensive duties

dead srs that is it

bonucci cant intercept or tackle

 

[zizinho]

 

[icemaη]

-bonucci punching above his weight like legrotagglie
- he can't tackle, head or intercept an ss, but he might be albe to do so.
-he needs to be paired with a good cb to shine in a support role
-he is only currenlty appreciated for his passing game, but maybe next year he will be for his defensive duties

dead srs that is it

bonucci cant intercept or tackle

I can't believe you wasted an eternity reading that shit.

 

[Scottish]

I skimmed it and the parts I caught didn't make much sense. That was the best summary I could have had.

 

[KB824]

good post

You're kidding right?

You actually agree with that?

You do realize that Bon Bon is now one of the top CB's IN THE WORLD, right?

 

[juventino320]

nope, dont expect me to rate him as wc defender cuz he is not, it will be an insult to wc like canavaro,maldini and nesta.

a wc player what ever his position dont wait to show his great till his late 20 he will be very good since young age like many who played for us like alex and buffon etc..

go to page 459 for exp and see how was bonucci before one year and keep going back.

the guy didnt say anything wrong, he is at peak and he is doing great and hopfully will do better coming years.

 

[Lion]

that's great and all but barzagli

 

[DAiDEViL]

a wc player what ever his position dont wait to show his great till his late 20

a lot of WC players need time until people consider them WC though.

and of course some players need more time than others,
they are no robots.

Drogba for example was 27 when chelsea bought him.
Klose 28 when he joined Bayern, Toni 29...

WC is WC, no matter how old.

 

[Scottish]

a lot of WC players need time until people consider them WC though.

and of course some players need more time than others,
they are no robots.

Drogba for example was 27 when chelsea bought him.
Klose 28 when he joined Bayern, Toni 29...

WC is WC, no matter how old.

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Especially that bit about Luca Toni.

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Bonucci is better than Hummels they said

From the fabled page 459

How time changes, chavo

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

What is wrong with people? This man is amazing.

 

[juventino320]

a lot of WC players need time until people consider them WC though.

and of course some players need more time than others,
they are no robots.

Drogba for example was 27 when chelsea bought him.
Klose 28 when he joined Bayern, Toni 29...

WC is WC, no matter how old.

so drogba is wc in the same level of alex wc ?

or dida get 5 years of wc he is the same level at buffon?

i think you get it, not saying you cant reach wc but that not equal to that

 

[alexjuventino]

Does anyone besides me think Allegri is partially the reason for his amazing season? Due to his tactics and telling him to calm down with the long balls

 

[juventino320]

Does anyone besides me think Allegri is partially the reason for his amazing season? Due to his tactics and telling him to calm down with the long balls

yes, most likely and i hope he keep improving.

 

[Scottish]

Does anyone besides me think Allegri is partially the reason for his amazing season? Due to his tactics and telling him to calm down with the long balls

That's probably come into it. Other things to consider are of course his natural progression as a footballer and his additional experience. The change in manager has clearly affected our team in many ways but Bonucci's growth from being shaky in a three man defence to being solid in a back four has been a culmination of many factors throughout our team.

Whatever the reason(s) it's been a wonderful thing to behold.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

love bonucci, but a defender who cant tackle aint WC in my book, we should still keep him though

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Bonucci had a great season, considering his limited abilities, it was imo his first season that he actually improved and thats particularly because of his CL performances and the rarests brainfarts of his.
It it good that he knows his defensive incapabilities and avoids defending at times, so that his teammates can act like he is not even there, but when the opposition defenders try to expoit it, both tactically and individually, we are in trouble.
Thats why i didnt like him in the final, his first 25minutes were poor imo, the team was pressed hard in the defense and he failed to make any impact defensively. As i am old school Italian fan, i will never rate a CB that cant defend.
Bonucci is avoiding to make mistakes and thats indirectly usefull, he tries to contribute with his small passing game and make him self usefull and occassionally he uses he height and thats it.
He is still unable to man mark, perform sliding tackles, intercept dangerous sliding or air balls abd effectively stop his man in his area of control in our box, so in my books he is a liability, i cannot rate a CB with CM criteria, he has improved his CM skills, but not his CB IMO, untill i see him defending properly and stopping his man, personally, i will not rate him.

However he has now turned into the peaking era of the CB, even mediocre CBs like Legrotaglie, become Juve material then, they use their experience to read the game and intercept the opposition plans at their birth.
I believe in the coming 2 years Bonucci's defensive skills will bloom! He might never learn how to tackle and never deposess a SS, but he could effectively learm how to intercept balls heading to the opposition CFs.
That means though he can never lead our defence, organize its pushing forward maybe, but orchistrating a defensive plans, requires some tackle skills, experience to close down the gaps younger defenders and fullbacks missed,
since Bonucci can hardly cope with his own defensive duties, he will never be able to offer that surplus of defensive solidarity, so we must always ensure that he is at all times paired with a capable to defensive duties CB.
Barza and Chiellini are great defenders, maybe among the best right now, but they have fitness issues and soon Barza could only be used as a sub, as he will be 35yo in the coming year.
Caceres is a decent replacement for such duties and complement a more offensive profile, yet as it has been proved several times this season, when both Chiellini and Barza are missing from our starter eleven, there is a distinct lack of defensive solidarity that cannot be replaced. In two years from now, that hole in our and the NT defence will be probably lessened by Bonucci's improved defensive abilities.
We have invested a lot to get him here, soon we will start savouring the grapes of our sacrifices.
This is what i meant when i said that he should be loaned out untill he becomes of age, this is the moment that we should get him back!
Hopefully the next season will be a breakthrough for his defensive capabilities, hopefully he will be appreciated, not only for his passing game, but also his defensive work, hopefully his contribution will not be only an undirect supporting role, but an active one, where he will stand his ground and stop the opposition strikers himself!

Couldn't agree more. Fabulous. Would read again/10

 

[Hydde]

Does anyone besides me think Allegri is partially the reason for his amazing season? Due to his tactics and telling him to calm down with the long balls

It could be. Is the first time he has been error free and constant.

Very well could be something allegri si doing

 

[DAiDEViL]

so drogba is wc in the same level of alex wc ?

or dida get 5 years of wc he is the same level at buffon?

i think you get it, not saying you cant reach wc but that not equal to that

in his prime? yes.
Drogba was a beast.