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Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Couldn't help but laugh at the corner. Garay is standing still, looking at the ball. Bonucci is moving, and tries to push him away. Yet Garay still outmuscles Bonucci and does so whilst getting ready to score the goal.



Awful defending, he even looked like he was ducking slightly. Why not stand your ground, get tight and maybe not let the 6'2 CB have a free header? This is the type of mistake that footballers of ALL levels are criticised for and it's not one you expect to see from Juventus of all teams.
 

Klin

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Bro, stop being a hypocrite.
You can call me what you want. Bonucci is shit defensively. That's not news. Conte insists on playing him because of his fetish for the 3-5-2. If he knows that Bonucci sucks and he keeps playing him, it's his fault. It's the same reason why Quag doesn't start now. He finally realized he's shit and he benched him.
 
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Our backline was woeful today but cmon Bonucci was this the first time you played in a game? You fucking body the attacker and still manage to get pushed off and lose the duel in which you never attempted? Fuck off.
 

baggio

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You can call me what you want. Bonucci is shit defensively. That's not news. Conte insists on playing him because of his fetish for the 3-5-2. If he knows that Bonucci sucks and he keeps playing him, it's his fault. It's the same reason why Quag doesn't start now. He finally realized he's shit and he benched him.
Bonnucci is a liability on this team. More so than Quag ever was, since you want to bring his name into the discussion. You cannot have this level of defender/football player anywhere near your team, let alone the bench. The 433 hopefully would spell the end of Bonnucci if it ever came to fruitition, and if it didn't, then I think we need somebody whose less error prone playing there, and more importantly knows how to play defense as part of a football team of this calibre.
 

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Bonnucci is a liability on this team. More so than Quag ever was, since you want to bring his name into the discussion. You cannot have this level of defender/football player anywhere near your team, let alone the bench. The 433 hopefully would spell the end of Bonnucci if it ever came to fruitition, and if it didn't, then I think we need somebody whose less error prone playing there, and more importantly knows how to play defense as part of a football team of this calibre.
I agree with that. I actually been saying it for a while, but I'm the hypocrite.
 
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    Seeing Bonucci makes me want 4 man defense more than ever. Can't wait to see him benched.

    Or even better -- can't wait to see him in the stands again.
     

    baggio

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    I agree with that. I actually been saying it for a while, but I'm the hypocrite.
    If you're questioning his criticism tonight, then yes you are being one. There is no bigger picture, if you step back and see that even though our 'pussy' coach didn't field the optimal players tonight (Tevez-Llorente) or didn't pull Tevez out after his goal, despite all of that we wouldve had a draw or even a win, if it wasn't for one so called defender creating crucial mistakes in front of goal. Bonnucci does not deserve this level of football with Juve. And it's not the first time in Europe, nor will it be the last. We need a better solution even if we stick to the 352. We can blame Conte for still playing him, but I think it's going to change because we seemingly are considering a change in formation going by the players we are being rumored to be linked to.
     

    Pirlo's Beard

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    There are no excuses for his corner defending, that's what you'd expect if an attacker was marking Garay. Hell, they would even be blasted over it.


    That was an Amateur mistake, there is absolutely no logical reason to 'defend' that way. My old P.E coach back in school would have been fkn moaning about that in an under 15s game ffs.
     
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    Conte was spot on with the formation though.
    You're very, very wrong if you think we're able to play 4-3-3 at the moment.

    Neither Tevez nor Llorente deserve to be benched. And no, Tevez should not play on the left. And we have no wingers at all, if Gio is injured then all collapses as there's nobody on the bench capable of filling the blank.
     

    Juve_fanatic

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    I almost never go and point my fingers at any of our players when we loose, but i think that Bonucci was very poor today and the two goals (especially the first) were his fault. He also played many bad passes and gave the ball away.

    As i have been saying for a long time, i can not understand what is Bonucci's role in our line-up and what does he actually contribute to our game. We would be better off playing 2-6-3 with Gio as Trequartista than have Bonucci as a CB where he adds nothing to our game and just takes up a space for someone in attack or midfield.
     

    Klin

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    If you're questioning his criticism tonight, then yes you are being one. There is no bigger picture, if you step back and see that even though our 'pussy' coach didn't field the optimal players tonight (Tevez-Llorente) or didn't pull Tevez out after his goal, despite all of that we wouldve had a draw or even a win, if it wasn't for one so called defender creating crucial mistakes in front of goal. Bonnucci does not deserve this level of football with Juve. And it's not the first time in Europe, nor will it be the last. We need a better solution even if we stick to the 352. We can blame Conte for still playing him, but I think it's going to change because we seemingly are considering a change in formation going by the players we are being rumored to be linked to.
    Can you read? I'm saying Bonucci is at fault, but this is not the first time. It's Conte's responsibility not to play him if he keeps on screwing the team.

    :cookie:

    You're very, very wrong if you think we're able to play 4-3-3 at the moment.

    Neither Tevez nor Llorente deserve to be benched. And no, Tevez should not play on the left. And we have no wingers at all, if Gio is injured then all collapses as there's nobody on the bench capable of filling the blank.
    He has a 15M defender on the bench, yet he decides to keep playing the same error-prone defender. How can you fault Bonucci when our coach keeps playing him, even though he has an alternative?
     

    Juve_fanatic

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    You're very, very wrong if you think we're able to play 4-3-3 at the moment.

    Neither Tevez nor Llorente deserve to be benched. And no, Tevez should not play on the left. And we have no wingers at all, if Gio is injured then all collapses as there's nobody on the bench capable of filling the blank.
    We constantly talk only of 4-3-3.... What about 4-3-1-2? Why not sacrifice Bonucci (and that wouldnt be much of a sacrifice) for Gio and play Gio behind Tevez and Llorente? That way big and tall CB's wont be able to mark Gio so easily and even if they do, that will leave up tons of space for Tevez and co. to exploit? On top of that, teams will now have two creative players to pay attention to, not just Pirlo.
     

    Pirlo's Beard

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    I hate 4-3-1-2 but I think it's a suitable alternative until the Summer. Dropping Bonucci for an attacker makes infinite sense to me. Why make room for a defender when he, himself is a defensive liability.
     

    Alex-444

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    Can you read? I'm saying Bonucci is at fault, but this is not the first time. It's Conte's responsibility not to play him if he keeps on screwing the team.



    :cookie:



    He has a 15M defender on the bench, yet he decides to keep playing the same error-prone defender. How can you fault Bonucci when our coach keeps playing him, even though he has an alternative?
     
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    He has a 15M defender on the bench, yet he decides to keep playing the same error-prone defender. How can you fault Bonucci when our coach keeps playing him, even though he has an alternative?
    Then we should not comment anything. It's all Conte's business.

    You were also criticizing many things, whether it was Osvaldo, Isla or whoever. You should also stop doing that, it was Conte who played those players.
     

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