Leonardo Bonucci (196 Viewers)

[Red]

The guy always been an average defender...

So you think he has exactly the same defensive capabilities now as when he joined Juve?

You can argue whether his improvement has been from shit to average or from average to good, but to claim he's always been of one level is ridiculous.

 

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[thepaolocarmine]

Not overrated. his mistakes make him seem overrated to everyone on this forum...

 

[Gian]

Not overrated. his mistakes make him seem overrated to everyone on this forum...

Liability

 

[Red]

Anyone remember Mats Hummels making a very similar mistake against Real Madrid last season?

 

[Gian]

Another overrated defender.

When did you see Thiago Silva making such a mistake?

 

[Red]

Dunno, I don't watch him regularly.

As irritatating as it is when it happens - and you pray it doesn't happen at too bad a time - I'm fairly willing to accept that that sort of freak mistake happens now and then.

 

[the jesus]

We'll never be a force to be reckoned with in Europe with players like Chiellini and Bonucci in defence. They can cut it in Serie A, but they simply doesn't have the quality needed to compete for top honours in the CL.

To slow, not good enough on the ball, and very prone to make fatal mistakes, which gets punished instantly against the top clubs in Europe.

 

[Vlad]

I wouldn't put Chiellini there. He's going through some rough period, but the guy is an old school and does the job when called upon.

 

[the jesus]

I wouldn't put Chiellini there. He's going through some rough period, but the guy is an old school and does the job when called upon.

And that's the exact problem with Chiellini. He's an old school kind of defender. The game today is all about technique and speed at the highest level, and that's simply put Chiellini's biggest weaknesses.

Like I said before, he can cut it in Italy, where speed and the quality of the opponents more often than not is far off that you'll encounter in CL.

 

[Vlad]

And that's the exact problem with Chiellini. He's an old school kind of defender. The game today is all about technique and speed at the highest level, and that's simply put Chiellini's biggest weaknesses.

Like I said before, he can cut it in Italy, where speed and the quality of the opponents more often than not is far off that you'll encounter in CL.

Regardless of football evolution lately, you'll hardly find defender with good technique and an excellent defensive capabilities. It's more of a occurrence, not a standard.

 

[Juventino★★★]

Another overrated defender.

When did you see Thiago Silva making such a mistake?

the olympics?

 

[only-juve]

So you think he has exactly the same defensive capabilities now as when he joined Juve?

You can argue whether his improvement has been from $#@! to average or from average to good, but to claim he's always been of one level is ridiculous.

He improved but he is still a very average defender, said this the other day (way before yesterday's game) the man really struggles in a 1 vs 1 situations against even average attackers (let alone quality once).

People tend to defend Juve players no matter what facts are thrown at them (remember how guys around this forum were defending Melo even though he was clearly a nut case) or Secco for that matter.
I personally see the same thing with bonucci, they will always find excuses for his below average performance against top teams.

 

[Red]

I personally see the same thing with bonucci, they will always find excuses for his below average performance against top teams.

Which poor performances against top teams are you thinking of?

 

[Dostoevsky]

I don't like the trio of Barzagli - Bonucc - Chiellini.

(yes, I know we won 2 titles and that we reached 1/4 in the CL).

 

[Lion]

And that's the exact problem with Chiellini. He's an old school kind of defender. The game today is all about technique and speed at the highest level, and that's simply put Chiellini's biggest weaknesses.

Like I said before, he can cut it in Italy, where speed and the quality of the opponents more often than not is far off that you'll encounter in CL.

but who was defense of italy in euro 2012?

 

[Xperd]

International football is very different from CL.

You can notice that the tempo is slower in International games which suits Italy but in CL,the tempo,the pressing is on a whole another level.

Without a doubt CL has a more quality than international football.World Cup just has the prestige over the CL but thats about it.

 

[the jesus]

International football is very different from CL.

You can notice that the tempo is slower in International games which suits Italy but in CL,the tempo,the pressing is on a whole another level.

Without a doubt CL has a more quality than international football.World Cup just has the prestige over the CL but thats about it.

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[YasoR17]

So many couch experts.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Fuckers doubting Chiello's quality need to die.

 

[Xperd]

No one's doubting Chiellini,not me atleast but people need to seriously stop equating NT performances to club performances.They are two separate entities in my view.