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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
She certainly has all our balls lined up.

Well played Hoori.

---------- Post added 01.07.2012 at 22:21 ----------

Except for Kyle...sometimes, in this instance only girl talk will suffice.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
that attitude is really going to stack up the trophy cabinet.
Truth hurts.

Our boys went out with all the willing to win, that was just not possible because of injuries, fatigue and a lot of bad luck. On top of that Spain played their best game and were miles ahead.

TYgis has nothing to do with being pessimistic or not.. it is to accept facts and just move on and improve,.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Cronios, my dear friend, when you talk too much you increase the probability of time proving a part of your words. You can even contradict yourself with your predictions to cover all possibilities. Win-win situation. Keep talking, don't set a limit for what you see about future. See everything and tell us about them. Even if it doesn't work out to be exactly like what you had predcited, you can always find us something you have gotten right. Rub it in our faces then. Put us to shame. Let us learn. I'm sure this is what you enjoy most. More than the team's success, more than what the team and players who you never believed in achieved, you enjoy telling us how time has proved you right, even if it hasn't in reality.
I m very sorry that you see it like that, if you were more worried about football and less than Bonucci looks, you would be more objective...
I love Juve and i want to see hewr improved.
Above everything else i criticise the investment and choices that are made on the defense.
With great consistence and great detail, i m talking about everything and everyone in the same way i talk about our defense.
Before Borriello arived in our team. I considered Bonucci to be our weakest link.
If you were there and looking anything else but DP or Buffon looks, you would notice that he was responsible for most of our mistakes in the defense and goals conceded.
I believe that this man make us weaker, most than any other player, so spare us the BS and stop feeding the trolls, like X, who always crave for a chance to defame me.
See this as reminder and tell us who marked the scorers most of the time, what was his positioning and describe his tactical awareness,
smth that cannot be fixed in a season time:
.
BTW remind us how how many times Bonucci have performed a succesful sliding taclin this season?
Remember what i said when we signed Licht? Did i critised Barzagli this season?
A coincidence? From the 5 players of our defense i criticise Bonucci the most and from the other five its Borriello, in case you slipped my posts. And with great consistency, he has been our worst player on the pitch, another coincidence??
In case you slipped my POV, heres a reminder.
I believe that our midfield was one of the strongest midfields of the championship.
Adding to this our pro possession tactics and we have the reason why our defense was protected that well.
Conte gave a priority to this, thats why he changed the formation and tweaked with it so many times, but only after our weakest point, the defense, was stabilised. Feel free to watch the first ten game of the season again and focus on that.
The defense was our weakest point in the past 6-7 years, in case you didnt noticed, but for some strange reason, we are not investing there.
This is my main point of criticism on the transfer directors, not everything and everyone...

In this Euro, Italy have had one of the best midfields and again managed, like Juve to keep possession and control the game, protecting the defense good enough. Buffon's WC and Chiellinis presense protected Bonucci, in the rare occasions Bonucci was exposed. His confidense also helped of course and to his standards, he did well, but what if all that protection wasnt there and we had to rely on him?

This is a probable situation, for both Juve and the NT, this is a situation i m worried about, this is the weakness i believe that our opponents may exploit and rob us of important games and maybe even titles.
Is this a sin, to love my team so much and worry about her?
If this is my opinion, is it so bad to express my opinion about it.

Unfortunately for Italy yesterday and sometimes for Juve. A team appears with a superior midfield.
Here goes the the midfeild shield, more pressure on the defenders.
Unfortunately sometimes, we will lose Chiellinis presence, or Barzaglis, $hit happens and what happens then?
We have to rely on Bonucci, the one thing i afraid the most, the one thing that i consider our weakest point.
You are wrong it is not the thing i enjoy i enjoy the most, it is the thing i fear the most, it is a nightmare coming true.
Everything i say, i say it in order to avoid this nightmare scenario, not to experience it.
It is absurd to make such a claim and i consider it as an insult.

You may not understand football as i do, so you better your remarks on footbalistic matters.
This was a post aimed at me personally,not Bonucci, neither a techincal approach to my arguments about his faults or perfromance,
simply a personal unfounded attack and you showed that you have little idea about what i was talking about though.
You throw mud at me for no like the rest, i am disgusted that you call me a friend... how dare you, i m obvisously not your friend, my haters are your friends,
you dont ever bother to know my actual stance.

And you are wrong again, when you talk too much, you increase the probality to make mistakes, you increase the probablity that soemone will take smth out of the contex and twist in order to present it in a way that makes you being wrong.
Its safer to stnad back, say mothing and only thorw insluts and criticism, like X and the new Australians do.

I have repeated time and time again, i dont care about popularity, my general stance, time on the forums and lack of presence to not football related materialsd prove that.
I only care about Juve, i suffer to her suffering, i dont want that, i want us to be better and improve, so i criticize the weakness and give credit where is due. Whats wrong with that? Is it bad, for a Juve fan, to desire his team's improvement?
Without caring if this is going to make me popular or not. If that was my priority, i would opt for a very different approach.

Dont i have the right to an opinion? I dont understand whats your problem with that...
But dont be disgracefull, i both here at good and bad moments and i m always consistent at my views, my criticism on Bonucci was consistent in both good and bad moments.
Today we had an opportunity to see him exposed and see what he really matters by himself, you dont get that opportunity every day, it is not fault that he flopped so hard and Italy was disqualified, it was just the natural cause of things...
I m not here to boast about, i m remind the very same things, even after victories, when Bonucci scored that goal and gave us positive perfromance i was here too, bu then noone protested, none of my haters hyppocrites considered that,
but when history proves me right, like yesterday, the bitterness of my haters go wild,
interesting to see a new one exposed, overwhelmed by her feelings, her mask has felt...

O well haters, no matter what you say, i ll be here and express my opinion, good ahead and attack me in groups,
as you are incapable of making an argument for your selves, thats the best you can do, criticise others...
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Each to his time and interests, i m sure that there are many ppl here, like MR. X, who have nothing better to do with their lives, that tracking my posts, all day in the forums and throw mud at me,
(they are so dedicated to this, like their life depends on this)
this post is dedicated to them, for more Bonucci matters, i will return soon...
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
I m very sorry that you see it like that, if you were more worried about football and less than Bonucci looks, you would be more objective...
I love Juve and i want to see hewr improved.
Above everything else i criticise the investment and choices that are made on the defense.
With great consistence and great detail, i m talking about everything and everyone in the same way i talk about our defense.
Before Borriello arived in our team. I considered Bonucci to be our weakest link.
If you were there and looking anything else but DP or Buffon looks, you would notice that he was responsible for most of our mistakes in the defense and goals conceded.
I believe that this man make us weaker, most than any other player, so spare us the BS and stop feeding the trolls, like X, who always crave for a chance to defame me.
See this as reminder and tell us who marked the scorers most of the time, what was his positioning and describe his tactical awareness,
smth that cannot be fixed in a season time:
.
BTW remind us how how many times Bonucci have performed a succesful sliding taclin this season?
Remember what i said when we signed Licht? Did i critised Barzagli this season?
A coincidence? From the 5 players of our defense i criticise Bonucci the most and from the other five its Borriello, in case you slipped my posts. And with great consistency, he has been our worst player on the pitch, another coincidence??
In case you slipped my POV, heres a reminder.
I believe that our midfield was one of the strongest midfields of the championship.
Adding to this our pro possession tactics and we have the reason why our defense was protected that well.
Conte gave a priority to this, thats why he changed the formation and tweaked with it so many times, but only after our weakest point, the defense, was stabilised. Feel free to watch the first ten game of the season again and focus on that.
The defense was our weakest point in the past 6-7 years, in case you didnt noticed, but for some strange reason, we are not investing there.
This is my main point of criticism on the transfer directors, not everything and everyone...

In this Euro, Italy have had one of the best midfields and again managed, like Juve to keep possession and control the game, protecting the defense good enough. Buffon's WC and Chiellinis presense protected Bonucci, in the rare occasions Bonucci was exposed. His confidense also helped of course and to his standards, he did well, but what if all that protection wasnt there and we had to rely on him?

This is a probable situation, for both Juve and the NT, this is a situation i m worried about, this is the weakness i believe that our opponents may exploit and rob us of important games and maybe even titles.
Is this a sin, to love my team so much and worry about her?
If this is my opinion, is it so bad to express my opinion about it.

Unfortunately for Italy yesterday and sometimes for Juve. A team appears with a superior midfield.
Here goes the the midfeild shield, more pressure on the defenders.
Unfortunately sometimes, we will lose Chiellinis presence, or Barzaglis, $hit happens and what happens then?
We have to rely on Bonucci, the one thing i afraid the most, the one thing that i consider our weakest point.
You are wrong it is not the thing i enjoy i enjoy the most, it is the thing i fear the most, it is a nightmare coming true.
Everything i say, i say it in order to avoid this nightmare scenario, not to experience it.
It is absurd to make such a claim and i consider it as an insult.

You may not understand football as i do, so you better your remarks on footbalistic matters.
This was a post aimed at me personally,not Bonucci, neither a techincal approach to my arguments about his faults or perfromance,
simply a personal unfounded attack and you showed that you have little idea about what i was talking about though.
You throw mud at me for no like the rest, i am disgusted that you call me a friend... how dare you, i m obvisously not your friend, my haters are your friends,
you dont ever bother to know my actual stance.

And you are wrong again, when you talk too much, you increase the probality to make mistakes, you increase the probablity that soemone will take smth out of the contex and twist in order to present it in a way that makes you being wrong.
Its safer to stnad back, say mothing and only thorw insluts and criticism, like X and the new Australians do.

I have repeated time and time again, i dont care about popularity, my general stance, time on the forums and lack of presence to not football related materialsd prove that.
I only care about Juve, i suffer to her suffering, i dont want that, i want us to be better and improve, so i criticize the weakness and give credit where is due. Whats wrong with that? Is it bad, for a Juve fan, to desire his team's improvement?
Without caring if this is going to make me popular or not. If that was my priority, i would opt for a very different approach.

Dont i have the right to an opinion? I dont understand whats your problem with that...
But dont be disgracefull, i both here at good and bad moments and i m always consistent at my views, my criticism on Bonucci was consistent in both good and bad moments.
Today we had an opportunity to see him exposed and see what he really matters by himself, you dont get that opportunity every day, it is not fault that he flopped so hard and Italy was disqualified, it was just the natural cause of things...
I m not here to boast about, i m remind the very same things, even after victories, when Bonucci scored that goal and gave us positive perfromance i was here too, bu then noone protested, none of my haters hyppocrites considered that,
but when history proves me right, like yesterday, the bitterness of my haters go wild,
interesting to see a new one exposed, overwhelmed by her feelings, her mask has felt...

O well haters, no matter what you say, i ll be here and express my opinion, good ahead and attack me in groups,
as you are incapable of making an argument for your selves, thats the best you can do, criticise others...
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swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,754
Unfortunately, I had to let that "Didn't read LOL" pass... because technically that post was precisely what that tired meme was invented for.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,966
Each to his time and interests, i m sure that there are many ppl here, like MR. X, who have nothing better to do with their lives, that tracking my posts, all day in the forums and throw mud at me,
(they are so dedicated to this, like their life depends on this)
this post is dedicated to them, for more Bonucci matters, i will return soon...
Don't let the racist, xenophobic masses fool you. You were right all along about Bonucci and I respect you as a human being, Chris.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,352
I will read and summarise.
You don't need to read it to summarize it. It goes like "blah blah blah.... SS, CMs, blah blah.... Italians, non-Italians blah blah... As I said years ago blah blah... 100 million Cr$ spend blah blah... History has proven me right blah blah..."
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,799
Each to his time and interests, i m sure that there are many ppl here, like MR. X, who have nothing better to do with their lives, that tracking my posts, all day in the forums and throw mud at me,
(they are so dedicated to this, like their life depends on this)
this post is dedicated to them, for more Bonucci matters, i will return soon...
here's my promise, if you provide me the amount marotta received for the martinez transfer i will never quote or address you again
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Cronios is a revolution in the world of mental retardation.

Forza Bonucci. Was great in the Euros apart from the final. Keep it up BonBon.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Bonucci proved tonight, yet again, that he is not even in the top 10, if he is not well covered by a better CB...
Italy really suffers from decent defenders, we wont have to suffer the same fate, we can sign just one non Italian, if its so imperative...
Seriously shut the fuck up cron, get yourself checked out, you are going too far you fecking idiot.

---------- Post added 02.07.2012 at 16:46 ----------

Cronios, my dear friend, when you talk too much you increase the probability of time proving a part of your words. You can even contradict yourself with your predictions to cover all possibilities. Win-win situation. Keep talking, don't set a limit for what you see about future. See everything and tell us about them. Even if it doesn't work out to be exactly like what you had predcited, you can always find us something you have gotten right. Rub it in our faces then. Put us to shame. Let us learn. I'm sure this is what you enjoy most. More than the team's success, more than what the team and players who you never believed in achieved, you enjoy telling us how time has proved you right, even if it hasn't in reality.
Somebody miscounted, it's actually 35 to go now.
 

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