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[BloodOnMoral]

:LOL: as if in romania we have that sort of channels

just serie a (phew) and bundesliga , and i wanted to see the dutch and french one :LOL: (besides italia)

but i know the best spectacle and technique are there, but maybe there are not too many people to like it

let's take the problem in another way then : name me some very well known players and at the same time good ones from the argentinian league

 

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[Slagathor]

Want me to start with Maradona or leave him out because he's so obvious?

Should I continue with Aimar, Crespo, Batistuta, Salas?

 

[BloodOnMoral]

want me to name the whole german teams starting with beckenbauer and reminding matthaus, muller, klinsmann ... and so on ? i don't want to protect the german side, obviously i don't , but maybe this is the way people look

 

[Slagathor]

Then people are stupid.

 

[BloodOnMoral]

well, you see, most of them seem to prefer the security of a strong and tough team, not too well developped technically, but with great names and stable people, who are now coaches and keep their names with pride blablabla ... germany doesn't have a ligues now, but they had it once ... and the experts are always nostalgics ... i know my father, and he will never say argentina is better than germany.

sorry if it seems that i speak rubbish, i know that some people around here think that i'm only able to post pictures and to gossip

 

[Slagathor]

Actually, the nostalgics bit is a good explanation for many charts I've seen!

I keep my stance though, Germany has a weaker league than Argentina

 

[BloodOnMoral]

i never told that you are not right

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++

I keep my stance though, Germany has a weaker league than Argentina

you'r terribly, terribly wrong!
maybe you don't like germans, but admit that their league is very good. the bundesliga is maybe one of the most underrated leagues in the world. the league is very entertaining and the teams are top-class. there are some great players from all over the world and even though Bayern win the title last year with no competition, the rest is very interesting.

in Europe, Bayern and Leverkusen got to the final two years in a row. The argentinien league is definetly not better. only 19 games with no goals. you can watch River Plate games from the second half, because all you get in the first half is huge boredom

 

[Slagathor]

Funny how you first say "you may not like Germans" and then continue to say how boring Argentinians are

Actually, I find the Bundesliga quite entertaining, especially HSV and Werder Bremen but what I based my opinion on is the fact that Argentina produces WAY more talent than Germany. Argentina is also the strongest league (ok, maybe second after brazil but still) in South-America whereas Germany is perhaps third but probably fourth in Europe.

One great team (Bayern) doesn't make a great league. So what if they got to the final two season ago, they got first round elimination last season.

 

[BloodOnMoral]

bayern is not a great team

they can dream about it, i allow them

 

[Tom]

the germans have a league?

 

[Slagathor]

Tom has entered the room, ladies and gentlemen!

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Funny how you first say "you may not like Germans" and then continue to say how boring Argentinians are

Actually, I find the Bundesliga quite entertaining, especially HSV and Werder Bremen but what I based my opinion on is the fact that Argentina produces WAY more talent than Germany. Argentina is also the strongest league (ok, maybe second after brazil but still) in South-America whereas Germany is perhaps third but probably fourth in Europe.

One great team (Bayern) doesn't make a great league. So what if they got to the final two season ago, they got first round elimination last season.

I did not said argentiniens are boring, I said that thier league is boring. it's true that more talents come from Argentina, but that's not what I was talking about. I said the German league is much better, and it's mainly because of the high-rated foreigners they bring to play at their clubs.
and who said one great team? the german clubs are much more succesful than the english clubs in the last few years (maybe except the last season). Leverkusen used to be great, Dortmund, Shalke, Shtutgart and more are great clubs.
and what you said about Argentinien league being better than the german because their league is the best in south America is very stupid, and makes no sense

 

[Slagathor]

Tell me why it makes no sense and I might consider starting a discussion with you on that topic.

 

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Tom has entered the room, ladies and gentlemen!

*waves to his fans*

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Tell me why it makes no sense and I might consider starting a discussion with you on that topic.

what it's have to do with Aregentina's league being better than the German? The Australian league is the best league in oceania! is it better than the German League??

just because most leagues in South America aren't good, doesn't mean that the Aregentinen league is better.

the players are good, the number of talents is very high, but as a league is not so good

 

[Slagathor]

Don't go dragging Australia in here, everyone knows South-America and Europe are roughly equal when it comes to football. That's not just me saying that

 

[JuveCampione]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Don't go dragging Australia in here, everyone knows South-America and Europe are roughly equal when it comes to football. That's not just me saying that

you'r talking about football, not leagues.
everyone know that in Europe there are more good leagues than in South America too!

 

[Slagathor]

whatever :groan:

 

[JuveCampione]

ahhhhh!!!! you have nothing to say, so you agree with me