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Knowah

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Seems like some interest from England and Germany for him and he's impressed at Empoli so far. His market value is allegedly 15-20m and he might be sacrificed to further fund a summer transfer window.
 
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    forget selling him, should replace Rugani next season with the first team. I also think Allegri likes him, he spoke pretty well of him last season and started in CL out of position. And its pretty obvious management is for the youth movement.

    LCB- Pavlovic
    CB- Bremer
    RCB- Danilo

    Gatti
    De Winter
    Bonucci

    very right foot heavy but Danilo has shown he can play LCB without much issue.
     
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    If you've followed Koni in the past at all, I think you'll notice how much hes grown physically this season. Having a good year, should be ready for Juve next season.

     

    Knowah

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    If you've followed Koni in the past at all, I think you'll notice how much hes grown physically this season. Having a good year, should be ready for Juve next season.

    Really like how he's turned out. He's 21 so he has the advantages over some other younger players in his development and physical growth. But he's really showing himself at Empoli and should be given opportunity to win the everyday spot with us next year.
     
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    Really like how he's turned out. He's 21 so he has the advantages over some other younger players in his development and physical growth. But he's really showing himself at Empoli and should be given opportunity to win the everyday spot with us next year.
    Koni and Riccio should be with the first team next season. Huijsen isnt far behind either and he has the advantage of being able to play on the left, where hes been playing with next gen. Dump Rugani, loan Gatti. With Sandro also leaving and Bonucci becoming less reliable by the day, there should be room.
     

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    If you've followed Koni in the past at all, I think you'll notice how much hes grown physically this season. Having a good year, should be ready for Juve next season.

    Funny. I just saw the clips and thought "whoah, he buffed up" and then I got confused and figured maybe I recalled him wrong. I remember watching him last season and thinking he looked athletic but without strength. Looks like he can impose himself now, wonderful! Helps him utilize his true skills.
    Goes back as well to other discussions we've had in this forum about strength/stamina. If the talent is there then I never worry about those things because they are the easy fixes to achieve. Reading the game, technique etc takes time to develop and nurture. Hitting the gym, which is kind of part of their job description, really doesn't bother me. I am, on the contrary, skeptical to many young italians that claim a spot in senior teams and that pave their way through size and strength. If you are 19 and big, I tend to review them based on a senior. Because they have hulked their way upwards so they should then be compared to senior players since their main skill is their size. From the top of my mind that's the way I viewed Pietro Pellegri (although he did have an eye for the goal too many years ago). He relied on size and positioning in the box.
    So, taken the same example and flipping it back. I assume Hujisen will need to hit the gym soon. I've barely seen him but others seem to rate him. But to maximize himself he will need to bulk up. But let him hit the gym a bit harder soon and he'll be ready in a year or two.
    Finally. Gatti. Seems like a Pellegri-type, awkward in positioning and reads the game poorly occasionally. Perhaps due to getting thrown in and out without consistency in a dysfunctional team. Head is in the right place though. Really hope time will favor his progress but so far he seems more like a very poor man's Chiellini. Underline that because Chiellini's reading of the game etc was WC.
     
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    Funny. I just saw the clips and thought "whoah, he buffed up" and then I got confused and figured maybe I recalled him wrong. I remember watching him last season and thinking he looked athletic but without strength. Looks like he can impose himself now, wonderful! Helps him utilize his true skills.
    Goes back as well to other discussions we've had in this forum about strength/stamina. If the talent is there then I never worry about those things because they are the easy fixes to achieve. Reading the game, technique etc takes time to develop and nurture. Hitting the gym, which is kind of part of their job description, really doesn't bother me. I am, on the contrary, skeptical to many young italians that claim a spot in senior teams and that pave their way through size and strength. If you are 19 and big, I tend to review them based on a senior. Because they have hulked their way upwards so they should then be compared to senior players since their main skill is their size. From the top of my mind that's the way I viewed Pietro Pellegri (although he did have an eye for the goal too many years ago). He relied on size and positioning in the box.
    So, taken the same example and flipping it back. I assume Hujisen will need to hit the gym soon. I've barely seen him but others seem to rate him. But to maximize himself he will need to bulk up. But let him hit the gym a bit harder soon and he'll be ready in a year or two.
    Finally. Gatti. Seems like a Pellegri-type, awkward in positioning and reads the game poorly occasionally. Perhaps due to getting thrown in and out without consistency in a dysfunctional team. Head is in the right place though. Really hope time will favor his progress but so far he seems more like a very poor man's Chiellini. Underline that because Chiellini's reading of the game etc was WC.
    I'm just glad De Winter is locked up for the forseeable future and is a juventino allegedly. Bigger clubs aka Guardiola (his profile fits what Pep likes) are gonna want him eventually imo.

    As for Gatti, he's been up and down, but like you said, not seeing the field with any consistency probably doesn't help his development, especially since hes making the jump from serie B. It's the same shit with Miretti. People will say Gatti is older but in reality he's just as inexperienced, maybe even more so. Those type of players need minutes. But if I'm betting on the future I think De Winter and Riccio will both have better careers than Gatti. Doesn't mean he won't have a good career though.
     

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    Koni and Riccio should be with the first team next season. Huijsen isnt far behind either and he has the advantage of being able to play on the left, where hes been playing with next gen. Dump Rugani, loan Gatti. With Sandro also leaving and Bonucci becoming less reliable by the day, there should be room.
    Next season? Not in 5 years like a certain someone believes?
     

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