Kiev crisis / Euromaidan (7 Viewers)
- Thread starter Zé Tahir
- Start date
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCnWV5iEOmU#t=234
Typical Russian Svolocz, Brave enough to beat older man who cannot defend himself
Typical Russian Svolocz, Brave enough to beat older man who cannot defend himself
I read a bit and i'm still laughing.
You realise they put neo-nazi in the gov?!?! and that so called "revolution" simply put Ukraine on their knees financially and they will prolly freeze to death?
My god... Maidan. Honestly this looks like the typical american job -> screw a country and steal whatever they can.
Look what happened in north-Africa. Ofc Saddam and company weren't scouts but it's 1000000times better a layman then those muslim brothers or ISIS. But meh.... americans go mad if oils get past 5$ per gallon or whatever the price is...
Europe country are just too stupid and follow the americans for God-knows-the-reason against Russia while all we have to gain is in this crisis is HUGE Losses!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzYbNv134M&feature=youtu.be
And Putin laughing himself of while saying "how (germans) will warm up during the winter if they don't have gas nor woods?? both are in Russia hands"
You realise they put neo-nazi in the gov?!?! and that so called "revolution" simply put Ukraine on their knees financially and they will prolly freeze to death?
My god... Maidan. Honestly this looks like the typical american job -> screw a country and steal whatever they can.
Look what happened in north-Africa. Ofc Saddam and company weren't scouts but it's 1000000times better a layman then those muslim brothers or ISIS. But meh.... americans go mad if oils get past 5$ per gallon or whatever the price is...
Europe country are just too stupid and follow the americans for God-knows-the-reason against Russia while all we have to gain is in this crisis is HUGE Losses!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzYbNv134M&feature=youtu.be
And Putin laughing himself of while saying "how (germans) will warm up during the winter if they don't have gas nor woods?? both are in Russia hands"
Been saying the same for a while, but no one listens 
Anyways. A good read here on Russias economical crisis: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-deba...nomic-crisis-and-left-russia-no-easy-way-out/
mind reading before you reply?
We talked about Ukraine and the new gov what has to do to russian economical crisis created by Usa with sanctions?
Anyway they'll focus their deals and trade with the BRICO. India and China are much bigger than America or Europe and afaik Russia already signed a huge contract with China.
All i see are stupid europheans following an even more idiotic american policy. Not realizing that Russia is the biggest partner for us and we should stick to the other side of the wall.
Cause the american way is declining quite a bit. While Russia,China and Brasil are the new emerging country in the world.
All left to the usa are the arrogance to proclame themself as the leaders of the world. When all they do are cheap and underway tattics to keep their status.
We talked about Ukraine and the new gov what has to do to russian economical crisis created by Usa with sanctions?
Anyway they'll focus their deals and trade with the BRICO. India and China are much bigger than America or Europe and afaik Russia already signed a huge contract with China.
All i see are stupid europheans following an even more idiotic american policy. Not realizing that Russia is the biggest partner for us and we should stick to the other side of the wall.
Cause the american way is declining quite a bit. While Russia,China and Brasil are the new emerging country in the world.
All left to the usa are the arrogance to proclame themself as the leaders of the world. When all they do are cheap and underway tattics to keep their status.
Breaking news
Obama authorizes sanctions against Russia’s Crimea
Home /
Op-Edge /
What Putin is not telling us
Pepe Escobar is the roving correspondent for Asia Times/Hong Kong, an analyst for RT and TomDispatch, and a frequent contributor to websites and radio shows ranging from the US to East Asia.
Get short URL
Published time: December 18, 2014 15:25
December 18, 2014. President of Russia Vladimir Putin during his tenth annual major news conference at the World Trade Centre on Krasnopresnenskaya Embankment (RIA Novosti / Vladimir Astapkovich)
December 18, 2014. President of Russia Vladimir Putin during his tenth annual major news conference at the World Trade Centre on Krasnopresnenskaya Embankment (RIA Novosti / Vladimir Astapkovich)
1.5K4034
Tags
Conflict, Crisis, Currencies, Economy, Europe, Gas, Global economy, Oil, Politics, Putin, Russia, Sanctions, USA
Even facing what under any circumstances is a perfect storm; President Putin delivered an extremely measured performance at his annual press conference and Q&A marathon.
The perfect storm evolves in two fronts; an overt economic war – as in siege by sanctions - and a concerted, covert, shadow attack to the heart of the Russian economy. Washington’s endgame is clear: impoverish and defang the adversary and force him to meekly bow to the 'Empire of Chaos’s’ whims. And bragging about it all the way to “victory.”
The problem is Moscow happens to have impeccably deciphered the game – even before Putin, at the Valdai Club in October, pinned down the Obama doctrine as “our Western partners” working as practitioners of the “theory of controlled chaos.”
So Putin neatly understood this week’s monster controlled chaos attack. The Empire has massive money power; a great deal of influence over the world’s GDP at $85 trillion, and the banking power behind that. So nothing easier than using that power through the private banking systems that actually controls central banks to create a run on the ruble. Think about the 'Empire of Chaos’ dreaming of driving the ruble down by 99% or so – thus wrecking the Russian economy. What better way to impose imperial discipline on Russia?
The “nuclear” option
Russia sells oil in US dollars to the West. Lukoil, for instance, would have a deposit in US dollars in an American bank for the oil they sell. If Lukoil has to pay wages in rubles in Russia, then they will have to sell the US dollar deposits and buy in Russia a ruble deposit for their bank account. This in effect supports the ruble. The question is whether Lukoil, Rosneft and Gazprom are hoarding US dollars overseas - and holding back. The answer is no. And the same applies to other Russian businesses.
Russia is not “losing their savings”, as Western corporate media gloats. Russia can always require foreign companies to relocate to Russia. Apple, for instance, may open a manufacturing plant in Russia. The recent Russia-China deals include the Chinese building factories in Russia. With a depreciated ruble, Russia is able to force manufacturing that might have been located in the EU to be located in Russia; otherwise these companies lose the market. Putin somewhat admitted that Russia should have been demanding this much earlier. The – positive – process is now inevitable.
And then there’s a “nuclear” option – which Putin didn’t even have to mention. If Russia decides to impose capital controls and/or imposes a “holiday” on repayment of larger debt tranches coming due in early 2015, the European financial system will be bombed – Shock and Awe-style; after all, much of the Russian bank and corporate funding was underwritten in Europe.
Exposure to Russia per se is not the issue; what matters is the linkage to European banks. As an American investment banker told me, Lehman Brothers, for instance, brought down Europe just as much as New York City - based on inter-linkages. And yet Lehman was based in New York. It’s the domino effect that counts.
Were Russia to deploy this “nuclear” financial option, the Western financial system would not be able to absorb a shock of default. And that would demonstrate – once and for all - that Wall Street speculators have built a 'House of Cards’ so fragile and corrupt that the first real storm turns it to dust.
It's just a shot away
And what if Russia defaults - creating a holy mess out of the country’s $600 billion debt? This scenario reads as the Masters of the Universe telling Janet Yellen and Mario Draghi to create credits in the banking systems to prevent “undue damage” - as in 2008.
But then Russia decides to cut off natural gas and oil from the West (while keeping the flow to the East). Russian intel may wreak non-stop havoc in pumping stations from the Maghreb to the Middle East. Russia may block all the oil and natural gas pumped in the Central Asian 'stans’. The result: the greatest financial collapse in history. And the end of the 'Empire of Chaos’s’ exceptionalist panacea.
Of course this is a doomsday scenario. But don’t provoke the bear, because the bear could pull that off in a flash.
Putin was so cool, calm, collected – and eager to delve into details - at his press conference because he knows Moscow is able to move in total autonomy. This is – of course – an asymmetrical war – against a crumbling, dangerous empire. What those intellectual midgets swarming the lame duck Obama administration are thinking? That they can sell American – and world – public opinion the notion Washington (European poodles, actually) will brave nuclear war, in the European theater, in the name of failed state Ukraine?
This is a chess game. The raid on the ruble was supposed to be a checkmate. It’s not. Not when deployed by amateur scrabble players. And don’t forget the Russia-China strategic partnership. The storm may be abating, but the match continues.
Obama authorizes sanctions against Russia’s Crimea
Home /
Op-Edge /
What Putin is not telling us
Pepe Escobar is the roving correspondent for Asia Times/Hong Kong, an analyst for RT and TomDispatch, and a frequent contributor to websites and radio shows ranging from the US to East Asia.
Get short URL
Published time: December 18, 2014 15:25
December 18, 2014. President of Russia Vladimir Putin during his tenth annual major news conference at the World Trade Centre on Krasnopresnenskaya Embankment (RIA Novosti / Vladimir Astapkovich)
December 18, 2014. President of Russia Vladimir Putin during his tenth annual major news conference at the World Trade Centre on Krasnopresnenskaya Embankment (RIA Novosti / Vladimir Astapkovich)
1.5K4034
Tags
Conflict, Crisis, Currencies, Economy, Europe, Gas, Global economy, Oil, Politics, Putin, Russia, Sanctions, USA
Even facing what under any circumstances is a perfect storm; President Putin delivered an extremely measured performance at his annual press conference and Q&A marathon.
The perfect storm evolves in two fronts; an overt economic war – as in siege by sanctions - and a concerted, covert, shadow attack to the heart of the Russian economy. Washington’s endgame is clear: impoverish and defang the adversary and force him to meekly bow to the 'Empire of Chaos’s’ whims. And bragging about it all the way to “victory.”
The problem is Moscow happens to have impeccably deciphered the game – even before Putin, at the Valdai Club in October, pinned down the Obama doctrine as “our Western partners” working as practitioners of the “theory of controlled chaos.”
So Putin neatly understood this week’s monster controlled chaos attack. The Empire has massive money power; a great deal of influence over the world’s GDP at $85 trillion, and the banking power behind that. So nothing easier than using that power through the private banking systems that actually controls central banks to create a run on the ruble. Think about the 'Empire of Chaos’ dreaming of driving the ruble down by 99% or so – thus wrecking the Russian economy. What better way to impose imperial discipline on Russia?
The “nuclear” option
Russia sells oil in US dollars to the West. Lukoil, for instance, would have a deposit in US dollars in an American bank for the oil they sell. If Lukoil has to pay wages in rubles in Russia, then they will have to sell the US dollar deposits and buy in Russia a ruble deposit for their bank account. This in effect supports the ruble. The question is whether Lukoil, Rosneft and Gazprom are hoarding US dollars overseas - and holding back. The answer is no. And the same applies to other Russian businesses.
Russia is not “losing their savings”, as Western corporate media gloats. Russia can always require foreign companies to relocate to Russia. Apple, for instance, may open a manufacturing plant in Russia. The recent Russia-China deals include the Chinese building factories in Russia. With a depreciated ruble, Russia is able to force manufacturing that might have been located in the EU to be located in Russia; otherwise these companies lose the market. Putin somewhat admitted that Russia should have been demanding this much earlier. The – positive – process is now inevitable.
And then there’s a “nuclear” option – which Putin didn’t even have to mention. If Russia decides to impose capital controls and/or imposes a “holiday” on repayment of larger debt tranches coming due in early 2015, the European financial system will be bombed – Shock and Awe-style; after all, much of the Russian bank and corporate funding was underwritten in Europe.
Exposure to Russia per se is not the issue; what matters is the linkage to European banks. As an American investment banker told me, Lehman Brothers, for instance, brought down Europe just as much as New York City - based on inter-linkages. And yet Lehman was based in New York. It’s the domino effect that counts.
Were Russia to deploy this “nuclear” financial option, the Western financial system would not be able to absorb a shock of default. And that would demonstrate – once and for all - that Wall Street speculators have built a 'House of Cards’ so fragile and corrupt that the first real storm turns it to dust.
It's just a shot away
And what if Russia defaults - creating a holy mess out of the country’s $600 billion debt? This scenario reads as the Masters of the Universe telling Janet Yellen and Mario Draghi to create credits in the banking systems to prevent “undue damage” - as in 2008.
But then Russia decides to cut off natural gas and oil from the West (while keeping the flow to the East). Russian intel may wreak non-stop havoc in pumping stations from the Maghreb to the Middle East. Russia may block all the oil and natural gas pumped in the Central Asian 'stans’. The result: the greatest financial collapse in history. And the end of the 'Empire of Chaos’s’ exceptionalist panacea.
Of course this is a doomsday scenario. But don’t provoke the bear, because the bear could pull that off in a flash.
Putin was so cool, calm, collected – and eager to delve into details - at his press conference because he knows Moscow is able to move in total autonomy. This is – of course – an asymmetrical war – against a crumbling, dangerous empire. What those intellectual midgets swarming the lame duck Obama administration are thinking? That they can sell American – and world – public opinion the notion Washington (European poodles, actually) will brave nuclear war, in the European theater, in the name of failed state Ukraine?
This is a chess game. The raid on the ruble was supposed to be a checkmate. It’s not. Not when deployed by amateur scrabble players. And don’t forget the Russia-China strategic partnership. The storm may be abating, but the match continues.
Interesting how the economical problems in Russia will affect Putin's popularity as well as his stance (Russia's) on the 'West'.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d8bf5266-89cb-11e4-9dbf-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3MfBsqKfd
Kudrin calling out the russian economy is a clear red flag.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d8bf5266-89cb-11e4-9dbf-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3MfBsqKfd
Kudrin calling out the russian economy is a clear red flag.
Pochi vogliono oggi ricordare che nel 1998 il rublo collassò del 70%, il doppio di oggi, e alla fine non è successo un gran che a Mosca. E la Turchia? Negli anni '90 ebbe il... il... 100% d'inflazione, ma ancora esiste va bene. Questo perché tutti, e anche i grandi 'esperti’ che pontificano puttanate ovunque, si scordano che i Real Terms of Trade, cioè l’economia che conta davvero, sono i beni reali e la piena occupazione, e mai la moneta. Ma vaglielo a far capire.
Today few want to remember that in 1998 the ruble collapsed by 70%, twice of what is happening today, and in the end it did not happen to much in Moscow. And Turkey? In the 90's had the ... the ... 100% of inflation, but they are still alive and kicking. This is because everyone, even the big 'experts' who pontificate crap everywhere, forget of the thing called "the Real Terms of Trade", that in the economy what really matters, are the real goods and full employment, and never money.
Today few want to remember that in 1998 the ruble collapsed by 70%, twice of what is happening today, and in the end it did not happen to much in Moscow. And Turkey? In the 90's had the ... the ... 100% of inflation, but they are still alive and kicking. This is because everyone, even the big 'experts' who pontificate crap everywhere, forget of the thing called "the Real Terms of Trade", that in the economy what really matters, are the real goods and full employment, and never money.
It saw %149 in 1994 
What a fucking mess the economy was
What a fucking mess the economy was
It lasted for like 2 years, I think it was overall around 19k percentage.aside from all kind of natural resources and oil???
Russians like China has bought tons of gold and unlike usa who has no gold and can't even return others gold they're packed. So i woudn't worry about Russia the americans can't bring down such a big country and Putin will not blend.
They're pretty solid. Russia will just switch from western deals to China. As it's the biggest country in the world and are in need of pretty much everything.
It's funny how americans thinks they're still the centre of the world. When they're pretty much owned by chinese. If ever China wanted they could make you go on you knees.
From my point of view you're are losing your top spot and are struggling in all the ways to keep it. What keep you afloat is just technological knowledge and the army. But the latter one is simply cause nobody want another huge war.
So hard time for the americans. While India,China,Russia and Brasil are raising. What will you do? declare war to the world cause they're getting the best of you?
Anyhow so far only we europeans are losing in this idiotic battle
Russians like China has bought tons of gold and unlike usa who has no gold and can't even return others gold they're packed. So i woudn't worry about Russia the americans can't bring down such a big country and Putin will not blend.
They're pretty solid. Russia will just switch from western deals to China. As it's the biggest country in the world and are in need of pretty much everything.
It's funny how americans thinks they're still the centre of the world. When they're pretty much owned by chinese. If ever China wanted they could make you go on you knees.
From my point of view you're are losing your top spot and are struggling in all the ways to keep it. What keep you afloat is just technological knowledge and the army. But the latter one is simply cause nobody want another huge war.
So hard time for the americans. While India,China,Russia and Brasil are raising. What will you do? declare war to the world cause they're getting the best of you?
Anyhow so far only we europeans are losing in this idiotic battle