Juve's last quarter profitable again (5 Viewers)

vletrmx

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MILAN (AFX) - IFIL SpA unit Juventus Football Club SpA said its net swung into a profit of 11.8 mln eur in the first quarter to Sept 30, from loss of 17.3 mln, supported by player sales and lower costs.

Juventus, one of Europe's top supported clubs, was relegated in July to Italy Serie B, or the second division, after a match-rigging probe and has sold some top players and renegotiated sponsorship deals.

'In the full year, results will be influenced by the relegation to Serie B could and the second phase of the transfer season (in January), extraordinary operations, and sporting results,' it said.

The club gave no precise forecast and reiterated that it has launched cost cuts, particularly on salaries and amortisation of player rights.

In the first quarter, total sales rose to 61.5 mln eur, from 43.7 mln, including a fall in TV rights income to 12.6 mln, from 19.8 mln, and player sales rising to 38.1 mln, from 5.3 mln.

Operating costs fell to 39.4 mln eur, from 45.9 mln, including in personnel costs to 24.7 mln, from 29.2 mln, while amortisation of players fell to 5.6 mln, from 13.2 mln, it said.

In the first phase of transfers in July and August, Juventus sold players for 50.5 mln eur, made new investments for 11.8 mln, it said, adding the overall capital gain was 36.9 mln.

Juventus has applied IAS/IFRS accounting rules from start of this year.
 

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ReBeL

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Not a positive result as some may conclude because the sales of our players were the strongest factor and knowing that it was an extraordinary event, then it can't be taken as an improvement to the club's results...

By the way, can we have one thread for discussing the financial aspects of the club in order to have some comparison between the results of the whole year as a whole??
 
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vletrmx

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    ReBeL said:
    Not a positive result as some may conclude because the sales of our players were the strongest factor and knowing that it was an extraordinary event, then it can't be taken as an improvement to the club's results...

    By the way, can we have one thread for discussing the financial aspects of the club in order to have some comparison between the results of the whole year as a whole??
    agreed. personel costs decrease is not as big as i would expect - many stars were sold. it means, for some, who stayed, wages had to be increased. i wonder ho much.

    rebel, do we have such a thread already?
     

    ReBeL

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    vletrmx said:
    agreed. personel costs decrease is not as big as i would expect - many stars were sold. it means, for some, who stayed, wages had to be increased. i wonder ho much.

    rebel, do we have such a thread already?
    No, mate...

    We don't have one right now...

    But we had this one:

    http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18500

    I would like to see one thread for the financial position of our club. That's it...
     

    Cronios

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    Not only we didnt covered our loses with the sales, but we created a great quality handicap in our ranks/squad,
    when we will return in serie A, we will be still recovering from our loses
    and the increased revenues WONT help us that much,
    as we have to massively invest on new players and personnel,
    this is where we are going to suffer, if we want to remain competitive...
     
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    vletrmx

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    i heard something, that our shareholders are ready to invest some more money. huge investment is needed, and i don't know if the owners will have that amount. it will take 5 years at least, till we will be working profitably.
     

    Marc

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    vletrmx said:
    i heard something, that our shareholders are ready to invest some more money. huge investment is needed, and i don't know if the owners will have that amount. it will take 5 years at least, till we will be working profitably.
    That is why Blanc said it will need 5 years to get back where we were.

    Imagine what would happen if we´ve been dropped to Serie C.
     
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    mark83 said:
    That is why Blanc said it will need 5 years to get back where we were.

    Imagine what would happen if we´ve been dropped to Serie C.
    i think we would be bankrupt, or would always have the status of seria b or c "mediums"
     

    Ahmed

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    vletrmx said:
    i think we would be bankrupt, or would always have the status of seria b or c "mediums"
    how would we have become bankrupt? We would have had to sell more players...so more money coming in...and sponsors cannot just cancel their contracts...TV money loss would have been significant but we would have balanced that by selling players
     

    chester

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    Cronios said:
    Not only we didnt covered our loses with the sales but we created a greatquality handicap in our ranks/squad,
    What did you expect, that we would be able to not loose money and keep the best players?
    Looking at what happened, I for one think we still have a decent squad this season, even if we would ahve played in serieA.

    Cronios said:
    when we will return in serie A we will be still recovering from loses and the increased revenues WONT help much as we have to massively invest to new players and personnel, this is where we are going to suffer if we wont to remain competitive...
    Wit the current squad and a few new players we should be able to be competitive again for Eufa cup football and then we can slowely increase our level.


    I don't get some of you guys, why are you so pessimistic?
    We should be glad that players like Trez, Buffon, Camo, DP and Nedved stayed and that we are making profit again, no matter how, this could have gone very different, we could have gotten a lot less money for the players we sold, we could have been relegated to serieC and so on.
    Don't be so pessimistic people.
     
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    rscafan said:
    What did you expect, that we would be able to not loose money and keep the best players?
    Looking at what happened, I for one think we still have a decent squad this season, even if we would ahve played in serieA.


    Wit the current squad and a few new players we should be able to be competitive again for Eufa cup football and then we can slowely increase our level.


    I don't get some of you guys, why are you so pessimistic?
    We should be glad that players like Trez, Buffon, Camo, DP and Nedved stayed and that we are making profit again, no matter how, this could have gone very different, we could have gotten a lot less money for the players we sold, we could have been relegated to serieC and so on.
    Don't be so pessimistic people.
    this profit is only for one quarter. we'll have loss for quite a long time. and it doesn't depend (very little actually) on our results on the pitch
     
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    ahmedz said:
    how would we have become bankrupt? We would have had to sell more players...so more money coming in...and sponsors cannot just cancel their contracts...TV money loss would have been significant but we would have balanced that by selling players
    very easily. no income, big expenditure-> continuous loss ->negatiive equity->bankrupcy
     

    Oggy

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    vletrmx said:
    very easily. no income, big expenditure-> continuous loss ->negatiive equity->bankrupcy
    Maaan you are too pesimistic :faq1:. C'mon cheer up a little bit mate we will not bankrupt. Just look at Fiorentina and Parma they saved their asses and they are not even close to the Juve reputation. I mean Juve always can find someone to invest money.
     

    Marc

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    goggo said:
    Maaan you are too pesimistic :faq1:. C'mon cheer up a little bit mate we will not bankrupt. Just look at Fiorentina and Parma they saved their asses and they are not even close to the Juve reputation. I mean Juve always can find someone to invest money.
    Exactly, but Juventus has bigger apetite than Fiorentina or Parma.

    And Parma is not exactly in a dominant position. They have like 10% of money now they had in 1999.

    Question is when will Juve recover: in 3, 5 or 10 years?
     

    - vOnAm -

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    vletrmx said:
    this profit is only for one quarter. we'll have loss for quite a long time. and it doesn't depend (very little actually) on our results on the pitch
    :pint:
    True man...but a quick promotion to Serie A will seriously help.

    I think the league really must clean up, in a few years time, it'll be very difficult to match the financial powers of EPL and La Liga. Those Leagues seem more professionally managed and their referee's improving year by year, more and more sponsors will jump in the league.
     

    Marc

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    - vOnAm - said:
    their referee's improving year by year, more and more sponsors will jump in the league.
    Wouldn´t agree on that.

    See Barcelona - Zaragoza game.

    Italian refs are among the best when they´re not corrupt.
     

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