Juve's last quarter profitable again (1 Viewer)

[Cronios]

What did you expect, that we would be able to not loose money and keep the best players?
Looking at what happened, I for one think we still have a decent squad this season, even if we would ahve played in serieA.

No, thats exactly what i expected, but some of our fans here, motivated from some articles/reporters had the impression that Juve made considerable selling all those and hope that we could use these money to buy back similar material...

Wit the current squad and a few new players we should be able to be competitive again for Eufa cup football and then we can slowely increase our level.

Agree 100%

I don't get some of you guys, why are you so pessimistic?
We should be glad that players like Trez, Buffon, Camo, DP and Nedved stayed and that we are making profit again, no matter how, this could have gone very different, we could have gotten a lot less money for the players we sold, we could have been relegated to serieC and so on.
Don't be so pessimistic people.

Its not about being pesimistic its about having the courage to face the truth and face the real situation,
we cannot be the Juventus we were in a short period, i think we both agree on that, but some interpratate those numbers in the wrong way and think that we are going to be competitive for the title next year.
We couldnt cope with Inter and Milan (financially wise) in our prime,
before the scandal, when our squad was full, our profits optimised, are results In Italy+Europe present (xtra cash+motivation+negotiation power), our management experianced,
we cannot produce at the same rate, at any case, this scandal took us way back,
we had a world class status as a team WITHOUT Agnellis investment,
Agnellis didnt and my estimations are that they will never invest like Inter and Milan(lately we been owned by Roma+Fioretnina too!!! in our common targets and with Moggi on board!!), they will get the likes of Gilas+Pizzaros and we will battle with Fiorentina and Roma for the left overs.
Even if they invest this year because its absolutely critical for the club now,
since we are in the worst position in our entire history and they might feel partially guilty for that, still these other teams are now many steps forward and we have to invest even more than them so we can reach them
and i dont think that this will ever happen...

 

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[Cronios]

We were never really threaten with C,
i was absolutely 1000000% sure that we would never reach there,
because that illegaly obtained info they had on us was insufficient,
plus we would be much more desperate measures and reveal so much more many secrets, taking other big names with us in B at least
and as it was prooved, some teams were too powerfull to reach there and prevented that.
It was all made to get us were we are, it all happened as i predicted,
the aim was never the purifing of calcio, but us alone, calciopoli was tailored in our waist,
they did the worst they could on us,
the only man believed and get entimidated by the serie C threat was our crappy laywer, so he would make us accept B easier...
i was convinced by that, before he was asked to,
i ve posted my thoughts, before they became facts/reality...
So, the point is; "if we could have avoided this sitution with less losses"
of course, things, could have become even worse, considering the facts, like tha fact that we were totally headless and without any serius protection/support,

but i think things could have been even better considering todays outcome,
not only we could have reached better agreements for some of our best players sold (esp Canna,Vieira and Zlatan, although they insisted to betray us) but we could have invested better at the right time on some others too,
an important thing on an investment is timming too,
if our managers already have the money and they are willing to invest they should do it on time when the best occasion appears,
so far the signs i got for them are not that positive,
i hope they will surprise me, soon, with some actions,
because, talk, is cheap...

 

[chester]

No, thats exactly what i expected, but some of our fans here, motivated from some articles/reporters had the impression that Juve made considerable selling all those and hope that we could use these money to buy back similar material...

Similar players won't be signed, but looking at the future, Chiellini might be able to replace Zambrotta, our best strikers are still here and the same goes for the wingers (although nedved might retire next summer) so we need to buy some new MC's and some good defenders (assuming none extra will leave, what I doubt)

Its not about being pesimistic its about having the courage to face the truth and face the real situation,
we cannot be the Juventus we were in a short period, i think we both agree on that, but some interpratate those numbers in the wrong way and think that we are going to be competitive for the title next year.

I agree we won't be playing for the title next season, and neither the season after, but with a few extra players, the Uefa cup should be possible which can also bring in extra cash.
Add to that the fact that one of both trez or Buffon will be sold for big money next summer and we should be able to decently strengthen the squad

Even if they invest this year because its absolutely critical for the club now,
since we are in the worst position in our entire history and they might feel partially guilty for that, still these other teams are now many steps forward and we have to invest even more than them so we can reach them
and i dont think that this will ever happen...

I don't think we are that far behind other teams, but we will see that next season, top four is out of the question, but for the rest, we will see.
Juve still is a big name, sponsers will still be interested in us, especially if we can return in 1 year.

 

[Marc]

Similar players won't be signed, but looking at the future, Chiellini might be able to replace Zambrotta, our best strikers are still here and the same goes for the wingers (although nedved might retire next summer) so we need to buy some new MC's and some good defenders (assuming none extra will leave, what I doubt)


I agree we won't be playing for the title next season, and neither the season after, but with a few extra players, the Uefa cup should be possible which can also bring in extra cash.
Add to that the fact that one of both trez or Buffon will be sold for big money next summer and we should be able to decently strengthen the squad



I don't think we are that far behind other teams, but we will see that next season, top four is out of the question, but for the rest, we will see.
Juve still is a big name, sponsers will still be interested in us, especially if we can return in 1 year.

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[Cronios]

rscafan, the more we speak the more we agree,
i agree on everything you said bar this:

"I don't think we are that far behind other teams"

we are Juventus fans and we will tend to see things our way,
economically Inter and Milan are far far away than us
and their CL status and championship position, allows them to have acces in a much, much larger variety of world class players/talents than us,
they can buy more with less money and risks and they always had more money to spend,
we have to rely on organisation and optimised managerial decisions (like always),
and i m not convinced we are in the same level as we were, regarding that,
thats why i believe that they are many steps ahead of us, we should hope they will make the wrong decisions/investments and use their resources less efficiently (well for Inter at least thats whats always hapenning so far anyway )
but they have the upperhand...for now

 

[chester]

True, for now, they have the upperhand, logical if you see what happened to us, how they could take advantage of it (especially Inter) and what they can do now (again especially Inter since Milan is doing awfull and should be lucky to be in such an easy group in cl).
Hopefully the important people we have backing us up (platini, Blanc, DD) can help us in signing some good names (probaly a lot of French ones at start) so that we are able to compete for serieA in 2-3 years from now but it will be though, no doubt about it.

 

[- vOnAm -]

I seriously think we have what it takes to compete for serie A next season. I think teams will realistically underestimate us, although they say they'll fear us.

I trust we will build a good enough team for next year's serie A battle, and we have a very good group os youngsters.

But again it depends on our financial situation. Remember when Coboli said it will take 5 years. I really think he is explaining the financial situation.

We are in serie B and losing money by the week. But this is an investment and at the same time our only hope. If we can't return to serie A in one year, than we wont do it in two.

We are losing money so that we can get back to serie A where we can start gaining back some income. But don't expect us to be financially capable next year, I have a hunch that we may sell off our stars to cover for this year's losses, and once back in serie a try to gain a balanced financial stance through our youth .

Just a hunch. But if that does happen, then forget my first paragraph about scudetto challange, but if we're financially able to hang on to our stars... then.... .....

 

[Geof]

I seriously think we have what it takes to compete for serie A next season. I think teams will realistically underestimate us, although they say they'll fear us.

I trust we will build a good enough team for next year's serie A battle, and we have a very good group os youngsters.

But again it depends on our financial situation. Remember when Coboli said it will take 5 years. I really think he is explaining the financial situation.

We are in serie B and losing money by the week. But this is an investment and at the same time our only hope. If we can't return to serie A in one year, than we wont do it in two.

We are losing money so that we can get back to serie A where we can start gaining back some income. But don't expect us to be financially capable next year, I have a hunch that we may sell off our stars to cover for this year's losses, and once back in serie a try to gain a balanced financial stance through our youth .

Just a hunch. But if that does happen, then forget my first paragraph about scudetto challange, but if we're financially able to hang on to our stars... then.... .....

I'm not that optimistic.
Granted, Paro has been very good for us, Marchisio is showing good stuff also;
But the two main players so far are Del Piero and Nedved. They wreck havoc in Serie B, but they don't get any younger. I fear next year might be very hard for these two. And replacing them is far from easy.

 

[.zero]

@ geof & vletrmx: im 50/50 on this, i think we may be able to compete but the way we must do that is with depth and a solid back line, as of now we dont have either.

on the subject of ballin this past quarter it seems that people will still pay to see the gods in purgatory even if its only for the year.

 

[d.nico]

this profit is only for one quarter. we'll have loss for quite a long time. and it doesn't depend (very little actually) on our results on the pitch

we have profit in 4th quarter. that means we can recover from loss in 3 previous quarter. Or, in the end of the year, we can record a profit in our yearly income statement. If we use Jan-Dec period.

MILAN (AFX) - IFIL SpA unit Juventus Football Club SpA said its net swung into a profit of 11.8 mln eur in the first quarter to Sept 30, from loss of 17.3 mln, supported by player sales and lower costs.

 

[Ahmed]

one thing Juve management has always been good is balancing the books...so we need not be worried about the financial position of the club...for the Agnellis it is above all a business...but the Agnellis must support us when we r back in Serie A if they want us to compete for the Scudetto...when fully fit the squad is pretty good...but a couple of injuries and we start to look very weak

 

[ReBeL]

Juventus CFO says delisting not currently an option


"The delisting was a possibility that shareholders took into consideration but for now it is suspended" he told the daily on the sidelines of a conference.

Bergero added that the club aims at ending the the full year to June 30, 2007 "at least at break-even or with a small profit even if with 30-40 pct less sales (compared to a year earlier)".

In the year ending June 30, 2006 the club made a net loss of 36.5 mln eur with sales of 251.0 mln eur.

Juventus is scheduled to present its five-year industrial plan in February.

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[Gill_juve]

i wouldnt mind de-listing maybe more investment from the agnelli's for once