juve's group in UCL 12/13? (23 Viewers)

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Man U would be easy imo. The midfield battle wouldn't even be fair. I can see them being tricky to score against with only Matri and Vucinic however.
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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Well, it's a fairly difficult group. Actually, taking into account that we couldn't feature in Milan's group (is this right?), there are 3 groups which would've been much easier (A - Porto, D.Kiev, D. Zagreb; B - Arsenal, Schalke, Montpellier; H - United, Braga, Cluj), and 3 groups which would've been harder (F - Bayern, Valencia, BATE; G - Barcelona, Benfica, Celtic) or much harder (D - Madrid, City, Dortmund).

So, there's hardness in this group, but it could be worse or much worse. We are basically fighting Shakhtar for a spot. I don't think we can beat Chelsea with our current strikers.
 

Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
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Well, it's a fairly difficult group. Actually, taking into account that we couldn't feature in Milan's group (is this right?), there are 3 groups which would've been much easier (A - Porto, D.Kiev, D. Zagreb; B - Arsenal, Schalke, Montpellier; H - United, Braga, Cluj), and 3 groups which would've been harder (F - Bayern, Valencia, BATE; G - Barcelona, Benfica, Celtic) or much harder (D - Madrid, City, Dortmund).

So, there's hardness in this group, but it could be worse or much worse. We are basically fighting Shakhtar for a spot. I don't think we can beat Chelsea with our current strikers.
:lol: WTF???
 

PedroFlu

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Sep 20, 2011
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And about Shakhtar - they are a good team. This won't be easy at all. They have good fullbacks (Rat and mainly Srna), and a core of young offensive Brazilian players.

The thing is - most of these Brazilians, who I know well, are overrated or simply not that good.

Ilsinho - RW - $#@!ty offensive right winger, probably is not playing right now and is always injured;

Alan Patrick - AMC - slow, careless, poor decision making, not a big deal

Luiz Adriano - CF - this guy is limited. Not intelligent, he's just strong and can score sometimes. Loses a lot of goals too. Not to be afraid of him

Eduardo - CF/Winger - this guy had great talent. But after that horrible injury at Arsenal he's just not the same anymore. He's slower now and less precise.

Dentinho - Winger/forward - this kid played for Corinthians. Decent, can be good sometimes, does some tricks, but not a great player. Far from that.

Douglas Costa - Winger - very very overrated. Is quick, can dribble and do tricks, but that's all. Poor decision making, doesn't score a lot of goals, doesn't pass or finish well.

Wllian - Winger - Very overrated as well. I mean, they just refused a 30M offer from Tottenham. That's crazy. Unless he drastically developed his game, he's just an improved Douglas Costa, but basically with the same characteristics. Maybe he's just quicker and dribbles better. Can be dangerous, but is very limited also in decision making, passing, shooting.

Fernandinho - Good player. But not great. Used to be an AM or even a forward, but I think now he's playing as a CM. Poor marking, but good vision, finishing and intelligence. He's good, but not special.


So, this is a good team, these Brazilians are skilled but don't have good basic technique - passing, shooting, and poor decision making. But they are all quick, can dribble and have flair. Juventus is better, but it's not going to be easy, mainly with our problems when it comes to finishing. The good thing is that it's an offensive team, so they play and let you play.

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Honestly, it's going to be pretty hard. I think our defense and midfield are similar or better than theirs, but ther wingers + Torres are miles away better than ours.

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And honestly, I don't think any single game will be easy. Playing this Danish team at home with 10 guys defending will be as tough as beating the shitty teams at home in Serie A last year without a proper poacher. Playing them in Denmark in the winter shouldn't be easy as well.

I don't think Shakhtar is very good, but they are definitely competitive and have offensive players who are irregular but who have flair.

I see Juve as favorites for a 2nd place, but it's not going to be easy at all.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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I am so looking forward to the Chelsea games, man. So hyped. We're going against last year's champs. Let's show the world what Juve is made out of.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Good group, a couple of tough teams but a chance to progress.

Man Utd have had a shit group going back to 2006-07 and maybe beyond, I'd like to know who their UEFA plant is.
 

Alex-444

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Sep 5, 2005
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And about Shakhtar - they are a good team. This won't be easy at all. They have good fullbacks (Rat and mainly Srna), and a core of young offensive Brazilian players.

The thing is - most of these Brazilians, who I know well, are overrated or simply not that good.

Ilsinho - RW - $#@!ty offensive right winger, probably is not playing right now and is always injured;

Alan Patrick - AMC - slow, careless, poor decision making, not a big deal

Luiz Adriano - CF - this guy is limited. Not intelligent, he's just strong and can score sometimes. Loses a lot of goals too. Not to be afraid of him

Eduardo - CF/Winger - this guy had great talent. But after that horrible injury at Arsenal he's just not the same anymore. He's slower now and less precise.

Dentinho - Winger/forward - this kid played for Corinthians. Decent, can be good sometimes, does some tricks, but not a great player. Far from that.

Douglas Costa - Winger - very very overrated. Is quick, can dribble and do tricks, but that's all. Poor decision making, doesn't score a lot of goals, doesn't pass or finish well.

Wllian - Winger - Very overrated as well. I mean, they just refused a 30M offer from Tottenham. That's crazy. Unless he drastically developed his game, he's just an improved Douglas Costa, but basically with the same characteristics. Maybe he's just quicker and dribbles better. Can be dangerous, but is very limited also in decision making, passing, shooting.

Fernandinho - Good player. But not great. Used to be an AM or even a forward, but I think now he's playing as a CM. Poor marking, but good vision, finishing and intelligence. He's good, but not special.


So, this is a good team, these Brazilians are skilled but don't have good basic technique - passing, shooting, and poor decision making. But they are all quick, can dribble and have flair. Juventus is better, but it's not going to be easy, mainly with our problems when it comes to finishing. The good thing is that it's an offensive team, so they play and let you play.

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Honestly, it's going to be pretty hard. I think our defense and midfield are similar or better than theirs, but ther wingers + Torres are miles away better than ours.

---------- Post added 31.08.2012 at 00:30 ----------

And honestly, I don't think any single game will be easy. Playing this Danish team at home with 10 guys defending will be as tough as beating the shitty teams at home in Serie A last year without a proper poacher. Playing them in Denmark in the winter shouldn't be easy as well.

I don't think Shakhtar is very good, but they are definitely competitive and have offensive players who are irregular but who have flair.

I see Juve as favorites for a 2nd place, but it's not going to be easy at all.
Fuck moles
in this team there is some eternal carnival Brazil
We have beaten them easily
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
Dentinho - Winger/forward - this kid played for Corinthians. Decent, can be good sometimes, does some tricks, but not a great player. Far from that.
Dentinho. :lol:

Finally remembered the name of the "promising" brazilian we were linked to a few years ago.

Dentinho, Salvio, Rodrigez, the names back in the days. :D
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
$#@! moles
in this team there is some eternal carnival Brazil
We have beaten them easily
Yep, they play with 3 of these Brazilian wingers/forwards plus an Eastern European poacher. And also Fernandinho as a CM. They are very offensive but I'm sure they're very weak defensively.

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Dentinho. :lol:

Finally remembered the name of the "promising" brazilian we were linked to a few years ago.

Dentinho, Salvio, Rodrigez, the names back in the days. :D
He's not a big deal at all.
 

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