juve's group in UCL 12/13? (1 Viewer)

[napoleonic]

since our record in UCL in this past decade surely took massive hit due to calciopoli and last 2 seasons horror shows, I guess I won't be surprised if we will be ranked as 3rd class club and it's highly probably that we'll be in a group of death with the likes of United, Dortmund and some portugal/swiss/france/scandinavian champion or such...

anyone can clarify our position in europe next year?

 

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[DelpieroForLife]

We will play in the 3rd group with Real Madrid, Dortmund and Zenit.

Please let me know if you wanna know as well about 13-14 season.

 

[Fr3sh]

I'd rather be placed with Barca, Man Shitty and PSG(dunno if possible). All three teams are despicable and I want Conte to make them cry.

 

[Nedved03]

Juve in group of death? Bring it on.
As long as conte and marotta do they job, we'll gonna be okay. Although i prefer alex scored goals against M.U..

 

[Ahmed]

Pot 1
Team	Coeff
 Barcelona TH	141.465
 Manchester United	151.157
 Chelsea	129.157
 Bayern Munich LR	118.887
 Arsenal LR	108.157
 Real Madrid	103.408
 Porto	100.319
 Internazionale	100.110

Pot 2
Team	Coeff
 Milan	94.110
 Lyon LR	92.735
 Shakhtar Donetsk	87.776
 Valencia	85.408
 Benfica LR	81.319
 Villarreal LR	75.465
 CSKA Moscow	73.941
 Marseille	68.735

Pot 3
Team	Coeff
 Zenit St. Petersburg	60.441
 Ajax	56.025
 Bayer Leverkusen	54.887
 Olympiacos	50.833
 Manchester City	47.157
 Lille	40.735
 Basel	39.980
 BATE Borisov CR	23.216

Pot 4

Team	Coeff
 Borussia Dortmund	22.887
 Napoli	21.110
 Dinamo Zagreb CR	20.224
 APOEL CR	13.124
 Trabzonspor	12.010
 Genk CR	8.400
 Viktoria Plzeň CR	5.170
 Oțelul Galați	5.164

this season.

 

[napoleonic]

Pot 1
Team	Coeff
 Barcelona TH	141.465
 Manchester United	151.157
 Chelsea	129.157
 Bayern Munich LR	118.887
 Arsenal LR	108.157
 Real Madrid	103.408
 Porto	100.319
 Internazionale	100.110

Pot 2
Team	Coeff
 Milan	94.110
 Lyon LR	92.735
 Shakhtar Donetsk	87.776
 Valencia	85.408
 Benfica LR	81.319
 Villarreal LR	75.465
 CSKA Moscow	73.941
 Marseille	68.735

Pot 3
Team	Coeff
 Zenit St. Petersburg	60.441
 Ajax	56.025
 Bayer Leverkusen	54.887
 Olympiacos	50.833
 Manchester City	47.157
 Lille	40.735
 Basel	39.980
 BATE Borisov CR	23.216

Pot 4

Team	Coeff
 Borussia Dortmund	22.887
 Napoli	21.110
 Dinamo Zagreb CR	20.224
 APOEL CR	13.124
 Trabzonspor	12.010
 Genk CR	8.400
 Viktoria Plzeň CR	5.170
 Oțelul Galați	5.164

this season.

and how is juve coefficient?

 

[Zlatan]

What is LR & CR?

 

[Nedved03]

How about this one?

http://www.myjuventus.net/2012/04/champions-league-of-gold-and-iron.html

 

[Ahmed]

@Zlatan

TH = Title Holder
CR = Qualified through Champions Route
LR = Qualified through League Route

 

[napoleonic]

How about this one?

http://www.myjuventus.net/2012/04/champions-league-of-gold-and-iron.html

so we're likely be in pot 3? let's formulate a worst case scenario... dortmund, juve, lyon, barcelona... hmmm ouch...

 

[Cronios]

For this and thew next year, we will be in pot 3, but we have nothing to fear if we play like we play this year.
Of course we will see how our current state is translated in Europe, but considering what we did to Milan and Napoli, its likely we can cope!

 

[Salvo]

You want to win it, you gotta beat the best. Bring em on, if we go out hopefully we do it with pride anyway.

 

[Albo]

I wanna play against Barcelona,please

 

[Alen]

We'll be in pot 3. That's a sure thing.

Here's another interesting but rather disappointing info about Italian football.
There is a strong chance that for the first time in CL history not a single Italian team will be among the seeders in the CL draw.

This is how it can happen... These are the CL coefficients right now:
1. FC Barcelona 156.465
2. Manchester United 141.757
3. Chelsea 130.757
4. Bayern München 128.903
5. Real Madrid 119.465
6. Arsenal 113.757
7. Internazionale 104.996
8. FC Porto Por 98.002
9. Olympique Lyon 94.835
10. Atlético Madrid 93.465
11. Liverpool 90.757
12. AC Milan 89.996
13. Valencia 89.465

The best 8 of these teams, that will make the CL, will be the seeded in the CL groups draw.
Barcelona, Manchester, Bayern, Real, Arsenal and Porto will make the CL.
If Inter don't make top 3 in serie A (very possible), if Lyon make the top 3 in the French league and then win the qualifying round for CL (50-50 chance because Lyon are now 4th in France, 3 points behind the third placed Lille) and if Valencia get at least one draw in the Europa league semis with which they will overtake Milan in the coefficient standings (very possible), then there won't be any Italian teams among the seeders. If Chelsea somehow make top 4 in England, then it becomes even more possible that Milan will end up in pot 2.

 

[napoleonic]

Alen, what must juve do to return to the top 5? reaching semifinals in 3 consecutive years?

 

[Alen]

Alen, what must juve do to return to the top 5? reaching semifinals in 3 consecutive years?

That might and might not be enough. As you can see in the coefficient list above, the teams with ~120.00 points are in top 5, which means an average of 24-25 points per year, since the last 5 years are counted.
2-3 very good years and 2-3 solid years would be enough for Juve to be in top 5. Say 2 semifinals, 2 quarterfinals and one 1/8 final in the following 5 years would be enough for Juve to make the top 8 and be seeded in the CL group draws.

 

[Trequartista]

Even though it won't happen

Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern
Juventus

Bring it on.

 

[Albo]

I have been dreaming for a years to see MotherFucking King Kong vs. Messi/C.Ronaldo,i'm sure he will fuck them like he does with Zingaro .

 

[only-juve]

let's formulate a worst case scenario... dortmund, juve, lyon, barcelona... hmmm ouch...

that won't be too bad IMO.

And I agree with what the rest said, bring on the toughest group next season. I truly believe we can beat them (if we played as good as this season).

 

[Azzurri7]

Why are we discussing this now?