Juventuz Awards 2003 (Finalists) (11 Viewers)

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Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++

if that happens we should expect lots of "ok, it was fun, but i'm leaving this hell of a place" threads coming up. should i start?
Yes please. Could you go away even if I dont become a mod? Pretty please? :p


;)
 

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
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Rickenbacker:

Your trying to use the over-all 'raison-d'etre' of this internet forum being Juve and trying to make a simpleton's argument stating: "Hey its a Juve forum...what do you expect?"
Truth of the matter is that I could probably "OUT JUVE" most supposed die-hard love-with-all-my-heart Juve-is-my-life Juve fans. When Juve begins to slip again many will "abandon ship" so to speak. Either the Roma boards will expand or whomever is the "hot team" or "trendy team" to root for or whoever has the "cutest" players. These are the individuals that are the "fuel" to this mob mentality. They have very little to offer except to pump up the others to "attack" the opposing view. When I have singled them out and debated them one on one they begin to crack at the seams.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the reason one is singled out for their comments is that they are anti-Juve because half the time when someone is offering positive criticism most don't bother to listen.
The non-Juve posters: you are gloriously mistaken into thinking that its because they are friendly that they are liked. When is the last time they took a stand for their team in a bold way? Its very obvious that to be friendly is basically to adapt, conform and SHUT THE F*CK UP in this forum. Personally Fred, Sergio and Vinman are the friendliest posters in this forum. However, each have the BOLDNESS to offer their uncensored opinion on certain issues. Vinman is virtually ignored; Fred lands into a bitter argument once a week with a poster and suddendly its 8-1. Sergio: Enough said.
The funny this is Rickenbacker that when I meant no one defended Sergio I meant that no one said in simple words: "Stop belittling his country".
Everyone INTERESTINGLY opted for the "Stop BOTH of you." OR "Hey so the U.S. has some issues...so what let it be."
Basically translates into: Ok even if YOU do have a point...Sergio is a Juve fan..so let it be.
P.S. Also love it how when Fred and I say the word F*ck in a sarcastic sense everyone is up in arms screaming "respect" and "don't get personal" all the while giving the usual "oh well behave" when we are on the opposite end of attacks week in and week out.
You want to disguise this into it being our fault for not conforming and simply put it to rest by saying its our attitude: go right ahead. But don't patronize me and don't fool yourself into trying to convince me otherwise. Only one person has taken the bold step of admitting that what I said actually occurs. As usual...everyone choose not to listen.
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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You're making too big a deal of this mate. Things are exactly as you see tham, nor are you the saviour of this forum, as you like to see yourself. :)
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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ok guys let me say this
1.sorry fahad if me saying what i said isnt allowed,but i saw many people using that phrase in a saracastic way so i thought it was ok.
2.thanks Nick for everything you said about me
3.if i am entitled my opinion then may i say that i think the only reason Incubo didnt win the award is cuz he's a milanista,i dont mean to offend anyone but that is my opinion.

PS:I repeat no offence to anyone:angel:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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Good points Incbbo, but anyways... why u are expecting to have a possitive replie when in the most of the post u are questioning JUve. IM not saying that this is bad, but i think that this is normal. And why u are trying to take out credit of *aca*´s work in this forum?.
I dont think that to be a good "non-juve" poster u have to create havoc here and here...when other poster have been doing the same as you without falling in controversy all the time.

Listen, im not saying that u dont have the right to do it.... because that is ur style... but dont expect too much. I think that u ade getting my point.

After all,, u was banned even from the "MIlan" forums for some reason right??? So it is more or less normal ur situation taking in consideration ur curriculum.


note: The last comment was from a post that u did in another thread.

Basically translates into: Ok even if YOU do have a point...Sergio is a Juve fan..so let it be.
Come on.. u know that it is not true. I think that even if it was u, the people of this forum would have reacted possitive to your point,, as i dont think that anyone will see in a good way the disrecpecfull for other´s country.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Fred, I don't think its because he's a Milanista.

I think it has more to do with when he brings up a point, it forces us to think.

That, and the fact that he can make points that we as Juve fans, sometimes don't see, or want to acknowledge. Then again, what would you expect? He's not a Juventino. But I do think that he respects the club itself. He's not one of these fly-by-night guys who came in and said "Juve blows, and so does Del Pieros mama", and then left.

I think that he was very abrasive at first, and quite honestly, his style was a shock to the system. However, and I'm sure Nick would agree, he has tempered that somewhat. Sure, you still have those types of people that when they see his post, a mechanism kicks in where they just bash him relentlessly, but I think that it has calmed down quite a bit.

Say what you will about him, but his ratio of intelligent to senseless posts leans very far into the former column, and he's not afraid to speak his mind and defend what or whom he feels should be defended.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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We have plenty of posters that acknowledge Juve's faults Serge, so it's not really that we bash Incubo because he's anti Juve.
 

*aca*

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2002
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funny thread so far :D

First of all there is a big difference between being confrontational and seeking confrontation. Incubo is former, no matter what he says. Maybe as someone noticed, as times passes by, his style is changing because his initial approach was simply crap. You ask yourself why? ;) Because looking to prove something every ****en single time simply doesnt work with PPL. You argue your point when you have one, not look for something to argue about.

This is a discussion forum, open for debate. But that is just a starter. As time goes by, forums become much more to their regulars and PPL start to appreciate social aspect of it. Thats the side that is completly missing from your "style" if you want, and majority of the posters either know or feel that. You are not here to enjoy your stay, but to prove your point. You as a member have a big part of what makes this place a community missing. Treatment you get from some tells you so. As long as this is the case, you will be an outsider to this forum. Your experience in the online communities is limited and you fail to see this. You call it a "mob", and dismiss the argument that this is, after all, Juve forum, but bottom line is this IS Juve forum. (btw there are places on the net where you would feel more at home)

To say that i dont argue my point when i disagree is rubbish. To say that i dont defend my team is even bigger pile of S*it. I did my arguments with fans of various teams long time ago in many different places, and I will not fight the same battles again. I chose what i will argue and when and how i will argue it.

The difference between me & you is that i dont have to prove anything to this PPL, while this is the only thing you are interested in (admit it or not). Someone will enjoy exchanges with you in this respect, and this is absolutely fine :), but dont complain if not everyone does so.

Last thing is, I'm active just as much as i want or can. I participate in too many forums to dedicate all my time to one only. I enjoy it here because it is a place where certain problems that usually occure in other places seems to be avoiding this place somehow:) And thats something Juventini here should be (in my view) be proud of.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by *aca* ] ++
I enjoy it here because it is a place where certain problems that usually occure in other places seems to be avoiding this place somehow:) And thats something Juventini here should be (in my view) be proud of.
Hey true.. now that u mention it.. im seeing a lot of fourms being out of control. Maybe this place is not the same as befoe, i dont know because this is my first season here... but at least it is in order. wehere in others is impossible to debate because of the rain of insults.

BTw, good post mate.
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
Funniest poster was Tom till he became a sissy moderator and has stopped posting regularly, then Lac is way funny with so much intelligence
just moderator will do fine thanks ;)
 
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