So the good ones are the ones we never heard of meanwhile we hype and sell the ones we don't want
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I mean, at the end, some of his mistakes are more victim of circumstances than strictly bad decisions.
The squad was on a high winning so many scudettos and he thought we were in a position to become a leader in European football so he gambled on Ronaldo and then the pandemic hit full force. World football shuts down and a massive source of income for us immediately dries up. And we had already committed so much money to things that require your sources of income to be steady. That's a massive bump in the road. And the rails fell off almost immediately.
I'd argue the Ronaldo signing and that entire project, with no covid, turns out differently and our current financial position is still connected to that covid collapse. We reached for the stars and the ladder beneath us immediately got kicked out by covid. What were we supposed to do?
It was ambitious but the timing proved to be awful and we have been dealing with the aftermath since.
The squad was on a high winning so many scudettos and he thought we were in a position to become a leader in European football so he gambled on Ronaldo and then the pandemic hit full force. World football shuts down and a massive source of income for us immediately dries up. And we had already committed so much money to things that require your sources of income to be steady. That's a massive bump in the road. And the rails fell off almost immediately.
I'd argue the Ronaldo signing and that entire project, with no covid, turns out differently and our current financial position is still connected to that covid collapse. We reached for the stars and the ladder beneath us immediately got kicked out by covid. What were we supposed to do?
It was ambitious but the timing proved to be awful and we have been dealing with the aftermath since.
I think even without COVID we would have struggled. But I don't even consider Ronaldo signing as one of his big follies. Here are my top 5:
1- firing Beppe
2- promoting Tici
3- ESL fiasco
4- promoting Cherubini
5- Hiring Sarri and Pirlo
The thing about signing Ronaldo is, you need a lot of things to go well for that to succeed. Not only you have to go deep in CL every season, but also Serie A as a whole need to grow massively so that the TV package gets a lot bigger. As we've seen in past few years the trend is the opposite. Agnelli was too cocky to admit his ceiling is limited by geolocation and maybe he can grow the league a little, but a lot of things need to go well for that to happen.
And if his idea was to be the Bayern of Italy, then his decisions were not really means to that end.
1- firing Beppe
2- promoting Tici
3- ESL fiasco
4- promoting Cherubini
5- Hiring Sarri and Pirlo
The thing about signing Ronaldo is, you need a lot of things to go well for that to succeed. Not only you have to go deep in CL every season, but also Serie A as a whole need to grow massively so that the TV package gets a lot bigger. As we've seen in past few years the trend is the opposite. Agnelli was too cocky to admit his ceiling is limited by geolocation and maybe he can grow the league a little, but a lot of things need to go well for that to happen.
And if his idea was to be the Bayern of Italy, then his decisions were not really means to that end.
I can agree with 1, 2, and even 4 to a degree but I don't see Sarri and Pirlo hirings as mistakes in and of themselves. And I don't see the ESL as a mistake.
Manager hirings are always going to be calculated risks and there is nothing wrong with them as a decision at face value. The mistakes with Sarri and Pirlo is one of not giving enough time or dedication or support. Sarri got nothing he wanted for his system and was forced to operate in a way he doesn't want to. I'm not a fan of his but I have to admit he was brought in because he was the popular manager at the time and wasn't given what he wanted to work correctly.
I don't see the ESL decision as a mistake and the courts have agreed with me. I think Agnelli didn't realize how viciously UEFA and FIFA would fight the ESL. If ESL happened and all the clubs signed up originally joined, we'd call it a stroke of genius. So it's not the decision itself that was a mistake but a miscalculation of the response and how that would affect the club.
Oddly enough, you didn't mention what I think is his #1 mistake. The plusvalenza fiasco and all that surrounds those player sales and basically people saying the quiet part out loud. Only our administration are stupid enough to talk about something EVERYBODY else is doing and not talking about. Once again, we get caught being yappy about a common practice and get castrated for the action.
Manager hirings are always going to be calculated risks and there is nothing wrong with them as a decision at face value. The mistakes with Sarri and Pirlo is one of not giving enough time or dedication or support. Sarri got nothing he wanted for his system and was forced to operate in a way he doesn't want to. I'm not a fan of his but I have to admit he was brought in because he was the popular manager at the time and wasn't given what he wanted to work correctly.
I don't see the ESL decision as a mistake and the courts have agreed with me. I think Agnelli didn't realize how viciously UEFA and FIFA would fight the ESL. If ESL happened and all the clubs signed up originally joined, we'd call it a stroke of genius. So it's not the decision itself that was a mistake but a miscalculation of the response and how that would affect the club.
Oddly enough, you didn't mention what I think is his #1 mistake. The plusvalenza fiasco and all that surrounds those player sales and basically people saying the quiet part out loud. Only our administration are stupid enough to talk about something EVERYBODY else is doing and not talking about. Once again, we get caught being yappy about a common practice and get castrated for the action.
Let me clarify. Sarri hiring was a mistake because we didn't do the due diligence to see whether we actually like the guy or not. As you said he was not supported and fired after winning a scudetto. What's the point of hiring someone when you're not going to support them? That's the mistake.
Different story on Pirlo, but having a 30m player coached by a rookie is just madness. If your strategy is to win now (since you're paying 30m to Ronaldo) then hiring a rookie is just plain stupid.
I'm absolutely for ESL. I think the only way non-EPL clubs can survive in the long run is for them to form a competition. But the way it was rolled out was awful. First, including EPL clubs made no sense, since they are not under the same financial conditions, and obviously they would pull back under any pressure. Second, sticking to it when it was obviously dead was just out of pride. When you go for the king you best not miss, and Agnelli missed by 100 miles or so.
I didn't mention plusvalenza because it was kind of included in #2 and #4. Cherubini was a fucking rookie, and Paratici was just too ambitious.
Different story on Pirlo, but having a 30m player coached by a rookie is just madness. If your strategy is to win now (since you're paying 30m to Ronaldo) then hiring a rookie is just plain stupid.
I'm absolutely for ESL. I think the only way non-EPL clubs can survive in the long run is for them to form a competition. But the way it was rolled out was awful. First, including EPL clubs made no sense, since they are not under the same financial conditions, and obviously they would pull back under any pressure. Second, sticking to it when it was obviously dead was just out of pride. When you go for the king you best not miss, and Agnelli missed by 100 miles or so.
I didn't mention plusvalenza because it was kind of included in #2 and #4. Cherubini was a fucking rookie, and Paratici was just too ambitious.
Jacopo Faticanti arrived at the Next Gen from Lecce yesterday, after Chiellini managed to get an agreement beating clubs like Cesena and Carrarese. Juventus have great faith in the player, who two years ago finished in the Guardian's ranking of the top 60 European Under-20 talents. Before Lecce, the player had also been compared to De Rossi in terms of temperament, so much so that he wore the captain's armband in the youth team. #Juventus
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