Juventus after Serbian starlet Simon Vukcevic (8 Viewers)

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
I wont repeat myself , I said that if you continue to talk like that and everyone else here than you are notorious.
I really don't want any discussion of that type here or anywhere else.Here,this is all about football which is nice and relaxing motive.
So, control yourself.
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Both sides had victims,
even today people enter to enemy villages, rape and kill people,
force them to abondon their home,
NATO does nothing,
they only know how to bomp,
noone else bomped and masively killed,
official and online as the nato,
IMO both sides were damm enough not to find a peacefull solution and let a third country, bomp them,
and totaly destroy their country.
Anyways its not Vukcevic fault,he is just a kid
we dont even know what is his opinion about it,
he doesnt represent Milosevic,
(anyway ,the Skorpions,the ones responsibles for the six executions, were a volunteer unit from Djeletovci in Eastern Slavonia,the Skorpions were inactive until NATO attacked Yugoslavia in 1999,
they werent part of Serbian army,
isnt it strange that somebody would make a videotape of themselves executing of prisoners of war?
it is said that the mercenary Scorpions, might working for NATO to generate “evidence” of Serbian crimes to justify the aggression.
And why nobody said a single word about bodies being taken from Kosovo and buried in Serbia-proper before that?
smth smells here)

We will never find out the truth,
JUST GO ON!
War isnt the solution,
its same on the 21st milenium to have war and map changes in the heart of Europe.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Croni,well said.
I don't want to talk about this anymore so I'll change the thread to talk about some better things than this one.

It is sad that we (young people) bother ourselfs with this kind of stories.
Some people will never be changed!
:down:
 

Amash

Senior Member
Mar 31, 2005
1,697
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++
Both sides had victims,
even today people enter to enemy villages, rape and kill people,
force them to abondon their home,
NATO does nothing,
they only know how to bomp,
noone else bomped and masively killed,
official and online as the nato,
IMO both sides were damm enough not to find a peacefull solution and let a third country, bomp them,
and totaly destroy their country.
Anyways its not Vukcevic fault,he is just a kid
we dont even know what is his opinion about it,
he doesnt represent Milosevic,
(anyway ,the Skorpions,the ones responsibles for the six executions, were a volunteer unit from Djeletovci in Eastern Slavonia,the Skorpions were inactive until NATO attacked Yugoslavia in 1999,
they werent part of Serbian army,
isnt it strange that somebody would make a videotape of themselves executing of prisoners of war?
it is said that the mercenary Scorpions, might working for NATO to generate “evidence” of Serbian crimes to justify the aggression.
And why nobody said a single word about bodies being taken from Kosovo and buried in Serbia-proper before that?
smth smells here)

We will never find out the truth,
JUST GO ON!
War isnt the solution,
its same on the 21st milenium to have war and map changes in the heart of Europe.

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The truth is that serbia atacked Bosnia, killed nearly 200.000 and most of them were unarmed victims woman, children and old people. The truth is that serbia tried to kill every muslim in Bosnia and make it ethnical clear. The truth is the skorpions were not inactive they were killing people in bosnia and I repeat that everyone who wants to see their slaughter I'll give him the link with movie and pictures. The truth is that they were not volunteers and they were part of serbian police. The truth is that they filmed themseves making slaughter. The truth is that skorpions were not working for nato, they were working ,as i before said, for serbian police(there is video evidence).
Don't tell me that we will never find out what is truth because the truth is well known. Problem is that serbs(not all of them) and peole like you doesen't want to know what the truth is and you r acting a fools. Don't tell me to go on and to forget because those things can can't be forgoten.

The only truth that u made in your statements is that nato did nothing.
You have said that simon doesen't represent milosevic that can be right and that can be wrong. Right now we don't know anything about it.
I can't accept that someone. whose father or brother or uncle or...maybe shooted at me and my people during the war, to play I my favorite club.

Those statemens that you have said are full of bullshit ,except one, and it's like that i'm saying that Hitler haven't killed or ordered killing jews during WWII and gestapo were eliminating people just because of getting evidence against Germany.

Shame on you and on your statements!!!
:fero::fero:
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,354
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++
Both sides had victims,
even today people enter to enemy villages, rape and kill people,
force them to abondon their home,
NATO does nothing,
they only know how to bomp,
noone else bomped and masively killed,
official and online as the nato,
IMO both sides were damm enough not to find a peacefull solution and let a third country, bomp them,
and totaly destroy their country.
Anyways its not Vukcevic fault,he is just a kid
we dont even know what is his opinion about it,
he doesnt represent Milosevic,
(anyway ,the Skorpions,the ones responsibles for the six executions, were a volunteer unit from Djeletovci in Eastern Slavonia,the Skorpions were inactive until NATO attacked Yugoslavia in 1999,
they werent part of Serbian army,
isnt it strange that somebody would make a videotape of themselves executing of prisoners of war?
it is said that the mercenary Scorpions, might working for NATO to generate “evidence” of Serbian crimes to justify the aggression.
And why nobody said a single word about bodies being taken from Kosovo and buried in Serbia-proper before that?
smth smells here)

We will never find out the truth,
JUST GO ON!
War isnt the solution,
its same on the 21st milenium to have war and map changes in the heart of Europe.
You see, I stayed out of this tread all the way until you wrote something like that which is totaLly outrages. First of all I can see that you totally dont understand the situation down here and the things that happened. Second: you imediately jumped to defend Skorpions, "they were volunters, they were inactive" :blah:, dude cant you understand that its all being serve to you by your media (For fvcks sake hole world is saying otherwise). Third: You are talking about "six executions" like it is some damn statistic, DUDE THOSE WERE 16 YEAR OLD TEENAGERS THAT WERE SHOT TO DEATH, NOT ANIMALS!!!
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I dont defend either side,
both side had casualties,
Scorpions for sure werent the responsibles for 200.000deaths
(this number isnt confirmed as far as im confirmed and it includes victims of war),
maybe somebody else did,
all i m saying is the winners write history,
facts presented before the war,
even in the trial of Milosevic was most of them false,
why sould someone lie so much when the truth is so obvius?
(unless u can hide a genocide)
-the so called massive graves had victims from both sides
and were probably victims of war and not a secret Milosevic genocide act,(even Bush said that)
-"his speech that he is ready to launch a war against the other peoples of Yugoslavia was a western media creation",
(he never threatened with war noone,
anyway he didnt have the means as the war prooved)
Professor Francisco Gil-White
(Psychology, University of Pennsylvania)
-The scorpions etc etc were all so true as the Nuclear bombs and BIO weapons hidden in Saddam bases.
I m not saying Milosevic isnt a criminal,
but things arent as how they were initialy presented,
there was no other need to send an army to do a snipers job(just waste Milosevic-though he stated:
Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it,
"This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage,
all people in Serbia who live from their own work, honestly, respecting other people and other nations, are in their own republic."
Just waste this criminal.)

other than just the US war industry wich cant economicaly survive without a small war operation like this every 3-4years,
the Bosnians and the Serbians souldnt allow to be the victims of it,
this war did more victims,destruction and hate that 2Milosevic would ever do.
I m only saying war is never a solution
esp when a third country with (unefficient?!? they can hit moving trains though) stealth bombers does it.
And why the pick always countries like Jugoslavia to make pieces of it?
In other countries (like Turkey?!? Russia?!?) genocides happen every day,
why they close their eyes there,
do u really think US really cares about justice or Bosnians?
what they can take advantage of u?
War never gave a solution,
just fed the next one!

I know my comments might hurt some people,
i wont make others on this topic,
im sorry, i feel ur pain,
(if it was by ur hand u would nuke the damn Serbians)
i ve stated my, so far, point of view with arguments,
i m not narrow minded, if new facts are presented i ll change my mind, (just not more US propaganda),
its Europe here,we might take no acts but we have eyes and ears
(or maybe only eyes and ears,
anyway everything is better than war)
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++
I dont defend either side,
both side had casualties,
Scorpions for sure werent the responsibles for 200.000deaths
(this number isnt confirmed as far as im confirmed and it includes victims of war),
maybe somebody else did,
all i m saying is the winners write history,
facts presented before the war,
even in the trial of Milosevic was most of them false,
why sould someone lie so much when the truth is so obvius?
(unless u can hide a genocide)
-the so called massive graves had victims from both sides
and were probably victims of war and not a secret Milosevic genocide act,(even Bush said that)
-"his speech that he is ready to launch a war against the other peoples of Yugoslavia was a western media creation",
(he never threatened with war noone,
anyway he didnt have the means as the war prooved)
Professor Francisco Gil-White
(Psychology, University of Pennsylvania)
-The scorpions etc etc were all so true as the Nuclear bombs and BIO weapons hidden in Saddam bases.
I m not saying Milosevic isnt a criminal,
but things arent as how they were initialy presented,
there was no other need to send an army to do a snipers job(just waste Milosevic-though he stated:
Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it,
"This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage,
all people in Serbia who live from their own work, honestly, respecting other people and other nations, are in their own republic."
Just waste this criminal.)

other than just the US war industry wich cant economicaly survive without a small war operation like this every 3-4years,
the Bosnians and the Serbians souldnt allow to be the victims of it,
this war did more victims,destruction and hate that 2Milosevic would ever do.
I m only saying war is never a solution
esp when a third country with (unefficient?!? they can hit moving trains though) stealth bombers does it.
And why the pick always countries like Jugoslavia to make pieces of it?
In other countries (like Turkey?!? Russia?!?) genocides happen every day,
why they close their eyes there,
do u really think US really cares about justice or Bosnians?
what they can take advantage of u?
War never gave a solution,
just fed the next one!

I know my comments might hurt some people,
i wont make others on this topic,
im sorry, i feel ur pain,
(if it was by ur hand u would nuke the damn Serbians)
i ve stated my, so far, point of view with arguments,
i m not narrow minded, if new facts are presented i ll change my mind, (just not more US propaganda),
its Europe here,we might take no acts but we have eyes and ears
(or maybe only eyes and ears,
anyway everything is better than war)

Please try not to discuss this subject further, as you have no idea what you're talking nabout.




Gray, please close this thread.
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++


You don't know what is wrong with serbs???
Open your little eyes and look around you. Almost 200.000 people in bosnia were killed by serbs and u don't see what is wrong with serbs??? 8000 unarmed people which included woman and childern were killed in few days in Srebrenica and u don't see what is wrong with serbs???
I can give u link where u can see pictures and movie of serbs killing six tied unarmed teenagers. Btw they were shooting them in the back from close range
i am not bosnian,i am serb i can't hate us you know ;)

and turks have killed sooooooo many greeks but i don't hate them!ok,of caurse there will be always smg wrong between us and there will be smg negative in the air but i don't hate them!!!
that is history.and life goes on
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Please try not to discuss this subject further, as you have no idea what you're talking nabout.




Gray, please close this thread.
As i said i m done with it,
there is no need to go further,
u dont have to call ur friend,
lets turn back to the Baklava topic we all agree and love:angel:
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
++ [ originally posted by Maresca78 ] ++
And we must behave us like juve fans... we must be examples for every one.
Why are some of you writing bad things about nationality?? a human must be judged with his own behaiveur and not because of his nationality..
Every good player is wellcome at juve, if he is good enough for us.

So if he is good, I would like finaly to see a young player at juve...
right!
btw,i also want younger players but i never feel secure with young players.

no matter how good they are,they lack experience if they are under 23 IMO
 
Mar 14, 2004
4,926
One of reasons Serbs hate Bosnains is cuz they consider Bosnians as Turks,which is partly correct......now,taking to notice what Turks did to Serbs in history(oh wait,don't say you forgott) i can justify their motive but I cannot justify their actions....after all,we do live in 21st century.....
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++


right!
btw,i also want younger players but i never feel secure with young players.

no matter how good they are,they lack experience if they are under 23 IMO
And u r right,
thats why the best thing is to buy their rights and then loan them to another team to prepare them,
like we did with Chiellini
(all this if they really worth it,otherwise dont even bother)
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
well in every team must e a good balance.. I think at juve the young players are not getting enough chances to prove therselves.....
 

nedved34

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2002
3,919
++ [ originally posted by Amash ] ++


You don't know what is wrong with serbs???
Open your little eyes and look around you. Almost 200.000 people in bosnia were killed by serbs and u don't see what is wrong with serbs??? 8000 unarmed people which included woman and childern were killed in few days in Srebrenica and u don't see what is wrong with serbs???
I can give u link where u can see pictures and movie of serbs killing six tied unarmed teenagers. Btw they were shooting them in the back from close range
dumbass.what all these "crap" have to do with the player called Simon vukcevic?? :undecide:
 

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