Juve made bid for Lucas Leiva (5 Viewers)
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Obviously you havent seen Aldair play - take away color of his skin & nationality he had Baresi in his making.
. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.
I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
Jun-hide said:
Obviously you havent seen Aldair play - take away color of his skin & nationality he had Baresi in his making.. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.
I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
as for c.ronaldo, any defender with good speed and want carefully look after him, will kill him easily.
maybe aldair is not a bad defender, but comparing him to baresi is ridiculous. aldair simply don't have killing mentality like baresi do.
i never see cris or luisao play, i can't make a comment on them.
Jun-hide said:
Obviously you havent seen Aldair play - take away color of his skin & nationality he had Baresi in his making.. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.
I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
. But I agree with your assertion that Brazilian defenders often get recognized for things European counterparts can only dream of.I mean god knows how many attackers Lucio left in their awake. But I do feel Brazilian defenders often get steretyed too much as casual, weak, and doesnt have defender mentality - because that is simply not true in a modern day. Cris, for example, based on what I see in CL, is one hard bastard who doesnt take any prisoners. Ditto for Luisao of Benfica - one of my favorite player.
And we all know how Cafu demolished C.Ronaldo in the CL encounter 3 years ago. Cafu is a first-class defender in both positional sense and actual defending. He may not do Nestaesque back-tackles but he rarely buys into fakes, and keep his feet on the ground. And considering how much he likes to maurade forward, his positional sense is excellent.
However, I think the days of stereotyping players style is long gone. We live in a era where most Brazilian esque plays for Portugal and most Italian like captained Brazil.
Oh god,how many crap in a player/transfer thread
I red bout ths boy on the internet...watched some youtube movies and all that. But then....the mother land of Canal+ Deporte and TPS foot gave us some arg/brasil games to watch
Lucas is a smart player,very agile,good movement and with very accurate direct passes up to 30m.
There is also,one very(and I mean very very) similliar player to him in south america and that is Gago....target of Barcelona and Real.
Conclusion: Juve,what are you waiting for?
But if we do get Lucas....I'm flying to turin tu cut his idiotic hair
I red bout ths boy on the internet...watched some youtube movies and all that. But then....the mother land of Canal+ Deporte and TPS foot gave us some arg/brasil games to watch
Lucas is a smart player,very agile,good movement and with very accurate direct passes up to 30m.
There is also,one very(and I mean very very) similliar player to him in south america and that is Gago....target of Barcelona and Real.
Conclusion: Juve,what are you waiting for?
But if we do get Lucas....I'm flying to turin tu cut his idiotic hair
barkuss said:
Oh god,how many crap in a player/transfer thread
I red bout ths boy on the internet...watched some youtube movies and all that. But then....the mother land of Canal+ Deporte and TPS foot gave us some arg/brasil games to watch
Lucas is a smart player,very agile,good movement and with very accurate direct passes up to 30m.
There is also,one very(and I mean very very) similliar player to him in south america and that is Gago....target of Barcelona and Real.
Conclusion: Juve,what are you waiting for?
But if we do get Lucas....I'm flying to turin tu cut his idiotic hair
I red bout ths boy on the internet...watched some youtube movies and all that. But then....the mother land of Canal+ Deporte and TPS foot gave us some arg/brasil games to watch
Lucas is a smart player,very agile,good movement and with very accurate direct passes up to 30m.
There is also,one very(and I mean very very) similliar player to him in south america and that is Gago....target of Barcelona and Real.
Conclusion: Juve,what are you waiting for?
But if we do get Lucas....I'm flying to turin tu cut his idiotic hair
Official: He signed for Liverpool
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/art...1_L14606554_RTRIDST_0_SOCCER-WORLD-DIGEST.XML
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/art...1_L14606554_RTRIDST_0_SOCCER-WORLD-DIGEST.XML
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