Just for the record..... (12 Viewers)
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TBH both penalties were deserved yest.
The first one of Amelia was on the line of the penalty box, which is part of the box, which results in a penalty.
The second one was just as clear, Ronaldinho was dancing the samba on the edge of the box, ran in, Bovo stuck his leg between both of Ronaldinho's and gave away a penalty.
I hate sticking up for Milan, but don't think that either penalty was dubious, though i'm not sure the ref would have given two penalties to the away team if it was someone else.
The first one of Amelia was on the line of the penalty box, which is part of the box, which results in a penalty.
The second one was just as clear, Ronaldinho was dancing the samba on the edge of the box, ran in, Bovo stuck his leg between both of Ronaldinho's and gave away a penalty.
I hate sticking up for Milan, but don't think that either penalty was dubious, though i'm not sure the ref would have given two penalties to the away team if it was someone else.
The second one was a clear penalty. The first one was outside the box, not on the line. The initial contact between Amelia and Pato was outside the box.
Of course, the ref could have easily given a free kick for Milan and a red card to Amelia, and he'd have been right to do that. But giving a penalty kick was a mistake.
Of course, the ref could have easily given a free kick for Milan and a red card to Amelia, and he'd have been right to do that. But giving a penalty kick was a mistake.
Indeed, he calls it IMMEDIATELY a second after the foul, no talk with the linesman.
Even if the mistake is the understandable kind of it being too fast to judge if its on the line or outside the box, this ref was quite eager to immediately call for the pk without any seconds lost on checking with the linesman.
Even if the mistake is the understandable kind of it being too fast to judge if its on the line or outside the box, this ref was quite eager to immediately call for the pk without any seconds lost on checking with the linesman.
If Rocchi took the decision by himself then i believe that it was a bad call, but if the linesman said that it was in the box i don't really think you can blame them.
And what i meant by the headphone thing, is that maybe when their was the collision between Pato and Amelia, the linesman might have said rigore, which would take less than a second to say.
I'm not sticking up for the refs, i'm just stating possibilities, cause i was the first to celebrate the second he missed
And what i meant by the headphone thing, is that maybe when their was the collision between Pato and Amelia, the linesman might have said rigore, which would take less than a second to say.
I'm not sticking up for the refs, i'm just stating possibilities, cause i was the first to celebrate the second he missed
"Because of the referee's centrality to the outcome of the games, teams do whatever they can to influence him. Almost every year, there is a new debate over the procedure for assigning referees. Under the current (2004) system, a two-person committee winnows down the pool of referees before their names go into a random draw. One member of the committee is known to be backed by the most powerful teams, Juventus of Turin and AC Milan. The other represents the rest of the league. The result is that Juve and Milan often can rig the system to assign themselves the most mediocre, provincially minded referees, who are (subconsciously) more deferential towards their prestige clubs. The famed Collina and similarly scrupulous colleagues are rarely ever sent to preside over Juve and Milan matches. Referees who have issued critical penalties to Milan and Juve have found themselves working in lowly Serie B. [...] In 1999, the daily sports paper Gazzetta dello Sport exposed that the club AS Roma had given each of Italy's top referees a $13,500 Rolex, an event dubbed "Night of the Watches." Not one of the referees, the report revealed, had voluntarily returned the gift."
Franklin Foer
How Soccer Explains the World PP 169-170
HarperCollins Publishers, New York, New York, 2004
Everyone in here needs to take a long look at their hypocritical lives.
Franklin Foer
How Soccer Explains the World PP 169-170
HarperCollins Publishers, New York, New York, 2004
Everyone in here needs to take a long look at their hypocritical lives.
"According to Foer, Alan's father was a lieutenant in Hitler's SS who was shot and captured in the South of France at the end of the war, and sent to a military hospital in Edinburgh, Scotland, to be healed and to fall in love with his Jewish nurse. At which point, the Allied Forces succumbed to the inevitable power of lurve, dropped all war crimes charges against the SS lieutenant and instead allowed him to set up home with his nurse; first in Scotland and then, presumably in protest at the sectarianism of the Glasgow Derby, in London. Alan, born in 1946, was the first progeny of this happy marriage and he grew up to be -- brace yourself -- an elite British special forces soldier, who doubled as an elite football hooligan at weekends. After serving five years for attempted murder (at a football match), he somehow transformed into a graphics designer who specialized in computer games for the Commodore 64. Well, of course. He then somehow managed to evade US Immigration Service checks on his criminal record (I think the US tends not to welcome convicted would-be murderers) to obtain the visa that allowed him to relocate to California in the 1990s, where he then promptly introduced English-style hooliganism to a group of Raiders fans in Oakland. Oh, I almost forgot, Foer is also keen to relate that at the time he spoke to Alan, he had just started a new career working as a mercenary in Croatia and Kosovo. At the age of almost 60. Hello? Is anyone else seeing Walter Mitty here?"
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