Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (26 Viewers)

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fredrik

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Flair, fancy, pace!! We are moving a bit away from grinding out draws in cl, to hopefully crush and dominate the minnows. There is more than enough steel and grit in this team. Manzucic will provide the bonecrush when needed
 

icemaη

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Play it safe, @baggio?

Juve are doing anything but playing it safe.

Bringing in youth such as Dybala, Vadala, Rugani, Zaza and potentially Draxler, with Berardi coming next year is anything but playing it safe. It's a bold move. A move that could lead to one step back this year but three steps forward in the future. This is a full on youth movement for a club that was 90 minutes away from an historic treble.

I can't see how these moves are considered passive. It is a risk. A HUGE risk. But it is a risk that management is willing to take. We all knew that the cycle of current players was going to end sooner or later. The sale of Vidal has moved that forward.
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It's very exciting time to be a fan, more so for someone like you who has been calling for investment in youth for a long time now. This 'risk' may lead us nowhere, but I'm glad our management is taking it. We are looking for dominance for a 6-8 year period by sacrificing an year. I can live with that. (Even with the changes we can easily do a Scudetto + CL QF with this squad. I believe that'd still pretty much have been our goal regardless of the changes)
 

Mark

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Now what.


For a guru, you are extremely cryptic and ambiguous.

Just the facts, man. I would love you even more than I already do if you just gave us the scoop
I have his av, I almost greened him, I tweeted shit yesterday, I'm posting happy smileys every day in here...what more do you want? :D
 

KB824

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icemaη;5023576 said:
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It's very exciting time to be a fan, more so for someone like you who has been calling for investment in youth for a long time now. This 'risk' may lead us nowhere, but I'm glad our management is taking it. We are looking for dominance for a 6-8 year period by sacrificing an year. I can live with that. (Even with the changes we can easily do a Scudetto + CL QF with this squad. I believe that'd still pretty much have been our goal regardless of the changes)
They are doing what other clubs that had these types of seasons in Serie A and Europe should have done when they had the chance, and I'm talking about the two Milan clubs. Especially considering the economic state in Italy.

Juve are looking at what happened to those two after their brief moment of success and have realized what not to do. If they get Draxler though, that is it for this year when it comes to youth. Get that LB from Atletico, sell off Llorente, and call it a summer.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I sincerely hope @Nostradamus opens the player thread once this is done

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They are doing what other clubs that had these types of seasons in Serie A and Europe should have done when they had the chance, and I'm talking about the two Milan clubs. Especially considering the economic state in Italy.

Juve are looking at what happened to those two after their brief moment of success and have realized what not to do. If they get Draxler though, that is it for this year when it comes to youth. Get that LB from Atletico, sell off Llorente, and call it a summer.
Attracting a top German talent shows how far our brand has gone.It was unthinkable literally a few years ago.Even Madrid and Barca started luring German players only lately when they turned into super brands.

If Draxler shines,this will easily give an opening towards more German players coming to Italy.
 
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Even if we are taking a risk on thess youth players we have a good amount of experienced players and core players that will help these youngsters grow. Its the best way forward and the only way forward unless u want the club to continue with short gap players
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Play it safe, @baggio?

Juve are doing anything but playing it safe.

Bringing in youth such as Dybala, Vadala, Rugani, Zaza and potentially Draxler, with Berardi coming next year is anything but playing it safe. It's a bold move. A move that could lead to one step back this year but three steps forward in the future. This is a full on youth movement for a club that was 90 minutes away from an historic treble.

I can't see how these moves are considered passive. It is a risk. A HUGE risk. But it is a risk that management is willing to take. We all knew that the cycle of current players was going to end sooner or later. The sale of Vidal has moved that forward.
Two ways to look at it Serge. High risk/high reward can be measured by making an argument in terms of investment in youth, which I am completely for, incidentally. But that's not to say that the youth we invest in, will always come cheap. It shouldn't be that we invest in youth because it suits us financially as well.

When I speak of risk, I am referring to the inability or lack of inclination to spend bigger money on a certain quality of player. We are rumoured to be wanting to pay 20-25m for Draxler, but are finding it difficult to compete for Goetze who is in the 40m bracket. Given the season we had, and Vidals sale, I would think if there was one season we could take that risk, it would be this one, but we've chosen to play safe, with a player on a salary within 4m, instead of going after the guy who would slot in as a top earner. That's risk averse to me because I can see we are genuinely interested in the more expensive player but we're settling for someone whose just come off an injury instead because of the financials involved.

Sure, there is an argument in debating player will, but that too is also affected by the suggestion of a pay cut. (And I'm not even getting into the tangent of how Geotze is more CAM and Draxler has a wider berth In terms of what we need on the pitch.)
 

Bianconero_Aus

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Julian Draxler's agent confirmed to Goal that they reached an agreement with Juventus: "We've reached an agreement with Juventus."
What do you think we'll end up paying for him? My guess is Schalke will get their €30m, but it'll be €25m + €5m in performance related bonuses.

Either way, exciting times and very much looking forward to seeing him play for us.
 
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