Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (51 Viewers)

[CrimsonianKing]

Man. People are even arguing that the Vidal sale and signing an AM aren't linked. Vidal was our AM, now we don't have one, we need one. Pretty direct correlation there, or am I going crazy?

It's just one or two sad fuckers being biased as always, just ignore them.

Even if you argue Vidal was only a temporary AM, it only means we've been in dire need for a AM since Allegri's day one. More so now that he left.

 

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[littlePrince]

I think we have money for a player like gotzs or isco and why spend time for draxler? but dont know why we cant sing them. We sell coman lazio kick out of champions and we get some money. We are free now from llorente salary... So why marotta cant sign a player like isco for AM

 

[Cheesio]

And please don't bring up the 5mil salary excuse, if we paid up Shalke month ago, Draxler would be playing here for 3.5 mil a year.

 

[Kopanja]

I think we have money for a player like gotzs or isco and spend time for draxler but dont know why we cant sing them. We sell coman lazio kick out of champions and we get some money. We are free now from llorente salary... So why marotta cant sign a player like isco for AM

Come on, man. Isco it's impossible and always was impossible. Don't delude yourself.

 

[JuveJay]

And please don't bring up the 5mil salary excuse, if we paid up Shalke month ago, Draxler would be playing here for 3.5 mil a year.

Yeah, according to GDM...

 

[Ronn]

Not sure about that. It's quite possible that there are alt options. Beppe is cheap, but he is not stupid. We just don't know the whole picture. For some reason they think that Dybala is worth 32+bonuses and Draxler doesn't. I don't agree with that, but let us see what will happen till deadline.

All the signs pointed to this fact that 'Schalke does not want to sell unless a substantial offer comes in'. What I mean by alternative options is to seal the deal for somebody else, if you're not going to pay them what they want. This hasn't happen.

 

[hojo_samurai]

And please don't bring up the 5mil salary excuse, if we paid up Shalke month ago, Draxler would be playing here for 3.5 mil a year.

@Cheesio take a trip back to the gif blow up day, this one you posted, just made my day

 

[Cheesio]

Yeah, according to GDM...

So you think we have been negociating with Shalke without having a deal with the player first ??

 

[baggio]

What we are prepared to pay. And tbh I agree with the management on this one, he would be a bigger gamble than either of the two we signed. €36m + €27m for a three year contract, get out of here...

Draxler to me was not the answer in the first place, but after identifying him as a target and spending pretty much the entire summer or whatever was left of its at the time of identifying him, without back up, you would imagine, they should've been prepared to pay in the ballpark of what was first quoted to them by Schalke (IF this guy was a primary target, which I believe he was, seeing how far this deal has come.)

I am perfectly ok if this position was not of primary importance, but you'll notice none of the important deals we closed this summer were gained on our terms. Let alone Zaza. That's just where the market is, and on the penultimate day, good luck with that gamble. All this said, Draxler was a better bet than Lamela, let's see what numbers throw up there. Though, I much rather we sign Sneijder and close things as they stand.

 

[Ronn]

The problem is that Draxler was our alternative option.

well then 2 mistakes, the other one being chasing stupid unrealistic targets

 

[Oggy]

What we are prepared to pay. And tbh I agree with the management on this one, he would be a bigger gamble than either of the two we signed. €36m + €27m for a three year contract, get out of here...

I keep saying, transfer season is pathetic, they are either estimators or liars. Listen to what people at clubs say, the rest is worthless. At that point it was probably only Juve who wanted him

We saw him as an opportunity, and not as sure investment like Dybala or Alex Sandro and I agree with management on that one. Like I said I hardly doubt he would solve any of our problems, especially because he is not a typical AM and is more of a LW or even SS, but still it sucks to not sign him, especially without proper backup plan (he actually was our backup).

 

[Cheesio]

@Cheesio take a trip back to the gif blow up day, this one you posted, just made my day

Now we look like such fools.

 

[DeviAngel]

Well he got better salary, his club got more money, he stayed in Bundesliga and his country. Of course he will stay in Germany. He ain't worth it for 36M with that being said we should have been quicker and he would play here for 3.5m had we offered the same money month ago, but its fair to be said that one month ago everyone was saying that he is over hyped and not top class now the Beppe haters who said that are using this to get back to Beppe supporters while we all (Beppe hares and supporters) seems like we forgot that Juve is the most important thing not Beppe or Draxler.

It didn't happen, deals like this have and will happen in the future. There will be another player and players coming out. Simple as that. MOVE ON

 

[hojo_samurai]

Now we look like such fools.

that moment will go down as the most trolled fans in history

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Well he got better salary, his club got more money, he stayed in Bundesliga and his country. Of course he will stay in Germany. He ain't worth it for 36M with that being said we should have been quicker and he would play here for 3.5m had we offered the same money month ago, but its fair to be said that one month ago everyone was saying that he is over hyped and not top class now the Beppe haters who said that are using this to get back to Beppe supporters while we all (Beppe hares and supporters) seems like we forgot that Juve is the most important thing not Beppe or Draxler.

It didn't happen, deals like this have and will happen in the future. There will be another player and players coming out. Simple as that. MOVE ON

I don't understand this concept, he is worth it when Beppe pays 36m because we got the player, but whenever Beppe fails to get a player, you have people claim he is not worth it. lol

 

[JuveJay]

So you think we have been negociating with Shalke without having a deal with the player first ??

You speak to the club first, not the player. That is illegal. Schalke let us speak to him, they confirmed it. What I'm saying is that GDM often isn't right. Also, at the time he said Draxler was asking for €5m and Juve had agreed on €3.5m with bonuses taking it to €5m. So either way, even if GDM was right, my point stands about the financial risk.

I'll also say that Wolfsburg is a better football decision for Draxler than Juve, short term. He can immediately slot in for De Bruyne and won't have problems adapting.

 

[duranfj]

Ok Beppe. You failed big time with this, it's not wolfs money It was our foolish way of doing business. Started in 15 m and then almost double it's stupid and big boys don't do It. Now, let's take off our shlt of the table and get to work.

You have something hide cuz you're not stupid and you didn't bet all in this stupid stupid stupid deal. Now lets move on aand show us what you got

 

[DeviAngel]

that moment will go down as the most trolled fans in history

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I don't understand this concept, he is worth it when Beppe pays 36m because we got the player, but whenever Beppe fails to get a player, you have people claim he is not worth it. lol

Please bro re-read the text especially the Beppe haters and supporters part.

 

[lgorTudor]

where do the 5mil salary come from?
GDM?

 

[JuveJay]

Draxler to me was not the answer in the first place, but after identifying him as a target and spending pretty much the entire summer or whatever was left of its at the time of identifying him, without back up, you would imagine, they should've been prepared to pay in the ballpark of what was first quoted to them by Schalke (IF this guy was a primary target, which I believe he was, seeing how far this deal has come.)

I am perfectly ok if this position was not of primary importance, but you'll notice none of the important deals we closed this summer were gained on our terms. Let alone Zaza. That's just where the market is, and on the penultimate day, good luck with that gamble. All this said, Draxler was a better bet than Lamela, let's see what numbers throw up there. Though, I much rather we sign Sneijder and close things as they stand.

I agree that he wasn't the answer, and maybe that's why I'm not as bothered as a lot of people are, certainly not to the point where it's affecting my sanity. But the problem remains that Allegri wants an AM and doesn't have one.

I'll be glad when Marotta comes out and rubbishes the Lamela story, he's not a real AM and is both too similar to Dybala and also steps on the toes of Cuadrado if we played 4-3-3.

 

[Ronn]

Wolfsburg also bought Dante from Bayern.