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The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Yes no doubt we should look after our interest as a club not only his.

You know what's the real disaster IMO in this summer transfers so far, we'd started a trend were our players and their agents are taking this club lightly and simply toying with us.

It started with Tevez were he wanted to leave before even his contract expire to Boca (so made it happen as he wished) and now Vidal (perhaps him or his agent) pushes us to sell him to Bayern even though their offer is ridiculously low for a quality player like him (we bend over and accept that).

Next season when a club like Barcelona comes knocking on our door asking for Pogba, you know what's most likely to happen ?

They'll offer us a very low sum and they'll push us over to accept that offer (because afterall it's the player wish to only play there and we acted like a smart club where anyone who wants to leave can just leave we don't even bother to convince them to stay just like any reasonable club).
I was always curious why promising footballers would go to clubs like Lazio or Porto who are always making problems to their players when they want to leave. I don't want Juve to have such an opinion. Would you accept a job offer from a company that is known from doing such things?
No

When one player wants out and the board decided they are going to sell him THEN we should announce that we are selling THAT PARTICULAR PLAYER. Not that we are a selling club blabla reductio ad absurdum #beppedefenseforce narrative witchhunt BS


Your logic is so funny
Selling player x at first request, without "announcement" + bidding war = proud big club, not selling club FORZA JUVE
Selling player x by starting a bidding war, increasing the profit = OMG SMALLTIME SELLING CLUB MENTALITY

the result is the same, we sold the player. But we didn't apply the right strategy to gain most cash out of it
Why make a fuss in the media? What football agents are for?
 

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Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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Juve's goal is to follow the Bayern model of financial stability, acquiring youth either through other clubs or through their own academies, and buying the occasional top player when one comes along.

Some of us have been saying this for several years now that this is the model that they want to follow. And there is nothing wrong with it.

I don't think anyone has asked you, but what is your opinion on the rumored 40 million for Vidal? Too much? Not enough? Fair market value?

Does the German media feel that this came to fruition due to Vidal's entourage reportedely meeting with Bayern ahead of time to come to a contract agreement?
I think 40m€ is a very good deal for Bayern, not for Juve. Juve should have shown more balls and taking more time and not making everybody else happy, but not the club, which should be priority. Needless to say, that this also reminds me very much on Bayern. :D

Maybe the reasons why and how Vidal went to Juve play a part. It was an unbelievable transfer odyssey summer 2011 with Vidal promising his mentor Heynckes to follow him to Munich..gave him his word. Heynckes was not very smart, thinking Vidal would stand by his word to come summer 2011 or latest 2012, when his contract expired and looked a bit like a fool afterwards.

Leverkusen however, decided that this one time, they wont sell a player to Bayern. They had a good team and Völler thought, that could be the year to beat Bayern and become German Champions :lol: So Völler did everything to sell him abroad and made it clear to Vidal, that they wont sell him to Bayern..his summer transfer office was in Rome :D

Anyway, end of the story, Vidal didnt want to wait a year and Juve were also a nice opportunity so u got him for peanuts and I was left behind heart broken. Maybe with him, they would have beat Chelsea and maybe he thought that too. I m sure he liked his stay in Germany and maybe it was a good time now, to finally make that step, that should have happend 4 years ago. More money and a great coach and team..a new challenge.

As Bayern and Juve both seem to sell cheaper than most of the others, they both also seem to get the players cheaper than most of the others, so maybe not that surprising after all. I m happy though. :)

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I believe you're a nice guy. But a lot of your posts kind of implies that Juve are pieces if $#@!s compared Bayern, which makes us think that you're a total asshole. I admit that Bayern is still ahead of us now, but tone down on the fanaticism and show a bit more respect, eh? I actually like a fan of another team posting in this forum, it makes it more interesting.
My prob is, that sometimes I get easily provoked by reading some disrespectful comments and then being too rude and harsh. I know that and I should be more balanced. I m an old fuck, but I can still change. :lol:

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KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I think 40m€ is a very good deal for Bayern, not for Juve. Juve should have shown more balls and taking more time and not making everybody else happy, but not the club, which should be priority. Needless to say, that this also reminds me very much on Bayern. :D

Maybe the reasons why and how Vidal went to Juve play a part. It was an unbelievable transfer odyssey summer 2011 with Vidal promising his mentor Heynckes to follow him to Munich..gave him his word. Heynckes was not very smart, thinking Vidal would stand by his word to come summer 2011 or latest 2012, when his contract expired and looked a bit like a fool afterwards.

Leverkusen however, decided that this one time, they wont sell a player to Bayern. They had a good team and Völler thought, that could be the year to beat Bayern and become German Champions :lol: So Völler did everything to sell him abroad and made it clear to Vidal, that they wont sell him to Bayern..his summer transfer office was in Rome :D

Anyway, end of the story, Vidal didnt want to wait a year and Juve were also a nice opportunity so u got him for peanuts and I was left behind heart broken. Maybe with him, they would have beat Chelsea and maybe he thought that too. I m sure he liked his stay in Germany and maybe it was a good time now, to finally make that step, that should have happend 4 years ago. More money and a great coach and team..a new challenge.

As Bayern and Juve both seem to sell cheaper than most of the others, they both also seem to get the players cheaper than most of the others, so maybe not that surprising after all. I m happy though. :)
In regards to your last quote. IF that is true, then sell us Gotze :D.

FYI, and you can take this any way you wish. In regards to how a lot of us perceive you here. It is not as if we don't appreciate the information. The information is not the issue. I think it is the delivery. You obviously have more connections being from Germany than a lot of us here, but it can kind of come across as you looking down on us or being condescending. I for one, do appreciate the information, and I certainly appreciate a straight forward approach. The smugness, however, is what rubs people the wrong way.

This forum is unique in that we certainly welcome fans of other squads to be part of this highly emotional, extremely dysfunctional, yet very loving and compassionate group of misfits called Juventuz. @Fred and @acmilan can attest to this. They are as much a part of this family as anyone else

But also remember that you are a guest in our house. Act accordingly, and you will be accepted as a part of this family. That is all I'm saying, man.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I believe you're a nice guy. But a lot of your posts kind of implies that Juve are pieces if shits compared Bayern, which makes us think that you're a total asshole. I admit that Bayern is still ahead of us now, but tone down on the fanaticism and show a bit more respect, eh? I actually like a fan of another team posting in this forum, it makes it more interesting.


:rofl:
True,i thought he was cool as well but he pissed me off this whole year.I mean,he thinks we are Milan or something.His posts are understandable if it was a Milan forum but this Juventus is about 5 yrs ahead of Milan right now.Show us some respect ffs,we almost won a treble !
 

thirteen

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Feb 8, 2015
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My prob is, that sometimes I get easily provoked by reading some disrespectful comments and then being too rude and harsh. I know that and I should be more balanced. I m an old fuck, but I can still change. :lol:

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wrong emotion..anyway why is there no text when i wanna edit?
:tup: Great.

I rarely see people here shit on Bayern though. We usually make fun of EPL teams, specifically Arsenal, and you could join us on that, because I know deep down you don't like them either. :p

True,i thought he was cool as well but he pissed me off this whole year.I mean,he thinks we are Milan or something.His posts are understandable if it was a Milan forum but this Juventus is about 5 yrs ahead of Milan right now.Show us some respect ffs,we almost won a treble !
Already talked to him, hopefully now all is well.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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:tup: Great.

I rarely see people here shit on Bayern though. We usually make fun of EPL teams, specifically Arsenal, and you could join us on that, because I know deep down you don't like them either. :p


Already talked to him, hopefully now all is well.
Actually, one of our mods is a Bayern supporter.
 

Numero Uno

Junior Member
Jun 18, 2012
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Heldt: 'No Juventus offer for Draxler’

Schalke 04 sporting director Horst Heldt reveals Juventus have not yet made an offer for Julian Draxler.

The Bianconeri have been given permission to speak with the German international, but the director has told Kicker that a deal is a long way from being complete.

“If Juventus want him, then things can move forward,” Heldt explained.

“We haven’t received an offer, and if we did then we’re in a position to reject it. In any case, we’ll worry about that when we get an offer.

“We want to play fair, Juve asked us if they could speak with Julian, and we said yes with confidence.”
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Heldt: 'No Juventus offer for Draxler’

Schalke 04 sporting director Horst Heldt reveals Juventus have not yet made an offer for Julian Draxler.

The Bianconeri have been given permission to speak with the German international, but the director has told Kicker that a deal is a long way from being complete.

“If Juventus want him, then things can move forward,” Heldt explained.

“We haven’t received an offer, and if we did then we’re in a position to reject it. In any case, we’ll worry about that when we get an offer.

“We want to play fair, Juve asked us if they could speak with Julian, and we said yes with confidence.”
:dielaugh:
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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True,i thought he was cool as well but he pissed me off this whole year.I mean,he thinks we are Milan or something.His posts are understandable if it was a Milan forum but this Juventus is about 5 yrs ahead of Milan right now.Show us some respect ffs,we almost won a treble !
The likes of Nostradamus and their arrogance are a huge reason why I dislike Bayern with such a passion, but I'll be damned if he hasn't been one of my favourite parts of the forum the past few months. Firstly because he's still pretty much always right (even though he can be an ass about it :D), but mostly because of how riled up he gets everyone else :D

Oh yeah, and keep doing whatever you're doing in the Milan forums :lol:
 
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