Juan Roman Riquelme (15 Viewers)

[Stephan]

dream on jem, his not juve material, his not italian and i dont like his style either, why that franco who missed some good opportunitys and didnt play 1-2 well with forlan even started, though i dont rate that jose marie either, he should have started. First half there wasnt nothing to watch, lehmann didnt had much to do, second half something was going on, but i have to say, villareal didnt play well, imo they played better in the first leg then at home.

 

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[Jem83]

Easy on the boy! even the greats miss in vital situations (Baggio '94) (DelPiero Recently)

Boy still a genius! I'd still have him in our squad, but not as our penalty taker.

Seconed

 

[Jem83]

dream on jem, his not juve material, his not italian and i dont like his style either, why that franco who missed some good opportunitys and didnt play 1-2 well with forlan even started, though i dont rate that jose marie either, he should have started. First half there wasnt nothing to watch, lehmann didnt had much to do, second half something was going on, but i have to say, villareal didnt play well, imo they played better in the first leg then at home.

Then you failed to see what was going on, actually.
Pellegrini's approach was inch-perfect, and he almost succeeded...

However, his players simply aren't good enough, especially the strikers, even though I think that Franco showed some skill at times. He was not the worst of them. That was Forlan.

Jose Mari is just shite.

Senna is shite.

And Tacchinardi was out.

Josico (?) apparantly lacked skill...

Still, as a team, as a unit, they managed to build up play for most of the game, so credit MUST go to the manager here.

 

[Bjerknes]

The only way Riquelme will excel at Juve is if we buy about 6 other Argentinians and have a Friday night Argentinian fiesta like they have with Pellegrini. Then you must give him a free role behind the strikers and better hope to hell he won't be marked out of the match because he will always need the ball and will fuck the side over if he doesn't get it. He's no Zidane or Ronaldinho or even Totti for that matter, and will simply choke time and time again because he needs to the atmosphere of the club and league in which he plays to be as close as possible to Boca Juniors and Argentina. FORGET HIM.

 

[Jem83]

The only way Riquelme will excel at Juve is if we buy about 6 other Argentinians and have a Friday night Argentinian fiesta like they have with Pellegrini. Then you must give him a free role behind the strikers and better hope to hell he won't be marked out of the match because he will always need the ball and will fuck the side over if he doesn't get it. He's no Zidane or Ronaldinho or even Totti for that matter, and will simply choke time and time again because he needs to the atmosphere of the club and league in which he plays to be as close as possible to Boca Juniors and Argentina. FORGET HIM.

Forget yourself!

 

[Bjerknes]

May I add to that?

He's a typical mercenary.

Well, you have a point. He'll go to whichever club has the best Friday night fiestas.

 

[Stephan]

The only way Riquelme will excel at Juve is if we buy about 6 other Argentinians and have a Friday night Argentinian fiesta like they have with Pellegrini. Then you must give him a free role behind the strikers and better hope to hell he won't be marked out of the match because he will always need the ball and will fuck the side over if he doesn't get it. He's no Zidane or Ronaldinho or even Totti for that matter, and will simply choke time and time again because he needs to the atmosphere of the club and league in which he plays to be as close as possible to Boca Juniors and Argentina. FORGET HIM.

indeed, every time today when villareal got ball they looked for riquelme and riquelme himself looks a bit selfish and well we already have selfish ibra

 

[Boney]

This is so ironic, we're talkin about how Villareal's squad lacked skill when they created enough chances to knock out Arsenal, while the only thing Juve managed to do was probably set a new standard for gettin offsides (inzaghi-wouldve-been-proud kinda standard). And yea while i still think Riquelme isnt the guy we need, they still did put out a good show.

 

[Espectro]

well, my only complain about Riquelme, and this is becouse I think he will not succed in Juve is that I dont think he could succed in Serie A. He is a player who needs space, and he is very slow, in a league where theres no space, Idont think he could make it.

 

[Stu]

- Slow
- Doesn't show up in the Big games
- Misses a crucial penalty

Yeah, he's good enough for Juve.

- And the likes of Emerson and Vieira are lightning quick, right? With his technique and vision he doesn't need to be as quick as Henry.
- The verdict is still out on this one IMO. I've seen him play very well against Barcelona and Brazil, and it isn't easy to perform when you're being double teamed constantly.
- He missed a penalty, so what? Ronaldinho, Henry, Baggio, Shevchenko, Del Piero and many others have missed penalties before and as long as football exists great players will miss penalties.

I'm not saying that I want Roman at Juve but to say that he isn't good enough for us is ridiculous. If anything say that his style of play doesn't suit us but Riquelme is one of the best attacking midfielders in the world so of course he's good enough for a team like Juve who can't keep the ball in the middle third of the pitch against half-decent opposition.

 

[Gep]

Riqueleme around great players will make his job easier, at Villarreal not being funny depend so much on him. We are crying out for a natural playmaker and Riquelme is the key, Regardless whether he is Argentinian or not, the boy is class. Think were being a bit too harsh on the lad here. See the way he plays for Argentina with greats around him? Breath taking stuff, So GET OUT AND WALK YOU ANTI RIQUELME's ..........And go get a Job!

 

[Jem83]

This is so ironic, we're talkin about how Villareal's squad lacked skill when they created enough chances to knock out Arsenal, while the only thing Juve managed to do was probably set a new standard for gettin offsides (inzaghi-wouldve-been-proud kinda standard). And yea while i still think Riquelme isnt the guy we need, they still did put out a good show.

Pellegrini all the way, mate

In fact, maybe Riquelme is NOTHING without this man.

I was so impressed with Villareal's approach tonight that I'm gonna follow Pellegrini with great interest from now on. He seems like a super coach.

Playing this well with this sort of clientelle against an ultra defensive counterattack-minded Arsenal side is impressive.

 

[Stu]

Then you failed to see what was going on, actually.
Pellegrini's approach was inch-perfect, and he almost succeeded...

However, his players simply aren't good enough, especially the strikers, even though I think that Franco showed some skill at times. He was not the worst of them. That was Forlan.

Jose Mari is just shite.

Senna is shite.

And Tacchinardi was out.

Josico (?) apparantly lacked skill...

Still, as a team, as a unit, they managed to build up play for most of the game, so credit MUST go to the manager here.

Bullshit. Villarreal controlled the game because Arsenal let them not because Pellegrini is some sort of tactical genius. Arsenal sat back and allowed Villarreal to boss the game possession wise and still they only created about three clear cut chances.

As for your player analysis, you're underrating the Villarreal players. Forlan was starved of good service and missed one good chance. Josico was solid tonight and is a solid player. Marcos Senna is one of the best midfielders in La Liga and had a good game tonight.

 

[Jem83]

Bullshit. Villarreal controlled the game because Arsenal let them not because Pellegrini is some sort of tactical genius. Arsenal sat back and allowed Villarreal to boss the game possession wise and still they only created about three clear cut chances.

As for your player analysis, you're underrating the Villarreal players. Forlan was starved of good service and missed one good chance. Josico was solid tonight and is a solid player. Marcos Senna is one of the best midfielders in La Liga and had a good game tonight.

Senna had a good first half and the first 5 minutes of the second half was good.
The rest was crap.
And better is required at this level.

Josico didn't impress me much, to be honest.

Forlan makes too many wrong judgements.

But sure, Ok...

So Arsenal LET Villareal almost knock them out.

I'm glad you cleared that one up

 

[Boney]

Pellegrini all the way, mate

In fact, maybe Riquelme is NOTHING without this man.

I was so impressed with Villareal's approach tonight that I'm gonna follow Pellegrini with great interest from now on. He seems like a super coach.

Playing this well with this sort of clientelle against an ultra defensive counterattack-minded Arsenal side is impressive.

haha am i sensing some sarcasm here?

 

[Stu]

Pellegrini all the way, mate

In fact, maybe Riquelme is NOTHING without this man.

I was so impressed with Villareal's approach tonight that I'm gonna follow Pellegrini with great interest from now on. He seems like a super coach.

Playing this well with this sort of clientelle against an ultra defensive counterattack-minded Arsenal side is impressive.

So I suppose it's because of Pellegrini that Riquelme has awesome technique, uncanny vision and a sweet right peg? Villarreal's approach was nothing special. They kept the ball well because they have technically adept players and were allowed a lot of room.

 

[Jem83]

So I suppose it's because of Pellegrini that Riquelme has awesome technique, uncanny vision and a sweet right peg? Villarreal's approach was nothing special. They kept the ball well because they have technically adept players and were allowed a lot of room.

No no, he's still technically gifted.

But I'm just suggesting that he is as good as he is at the moment because of Pellegrini.

He was still the same man with those very same legs with that very same technique when he was at Barcelona, but they couldn't bring it out of him.

Pellegrini, seemingly, is able to.

 

[JCK]

Easy on the boy! even the greats miss in vital situations (Baggio '94) (DelPiero Recently)

Boy still a genius! I'd still have him in our squad, but not as our penalty taker.

I did not say anything about the miss, if you go back and see my reply after the first game against Arsenal, you'll see that even back then I did not want him.

 

[Oggy]

Villareal played well, I must disagree with many opinions from this forum that Forlan was shit. Forlan actually made space for Franco and other players by constantly carriyng two defenders on hi back.

Senna were creative, but he lost to many balls, what I mean he had some inaccurate passes and bad recieving.

Riquelme didn't showed all his talents, but I think he misses few good players to make something. And in my opinion he is too slow...
And please don't judge him (Riquelme) by missed penalty, he is not first to miss important penalty.

 

[Stu]

Senna had a good first half and the first 5 minutes of the second half was good.
The rest was crap.
And better is required at this level.

Josico didn't impress me much, to be honest.

Forlan makes too many wrong judgements.

But sure, Ok...

So Arsenal LET Villareal almost knock them out.

I'm glad you cleared that one up

Josico didn't have much to do tonight. He's a defensive midfielder and Arsenal were firmly on the back foot for the majority so he wasn't really tested. Senna on the other hand distributed the ball well and kept things ticking over in midfield.

Arsenal didn't let Villarreal almost knock them out, they let them have the lion's share of possession. They played a cautious defensive game with all of their players bar Henry behind the ball. When you sit back and don't close down heavily it's only obvious that the opposition is gonna have a lot of the ball. IMO Wenger should've been more neutral tonight and allowing Villarreal to play was a mistake but that was his choice. Arsenal were non-existent tonight.