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Juan Manuel Iturbe Arévalos - Winger - Hellas Verona (25 Viewers)
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You are missing one thing though, Marotta is still our transfer director and as long as he remains there, the issues that have been haunting us for the past decade will remain.
Marotta has yet to a starter LB, that would allow to change our formation and use wingers, ever since he joined us.
He has always failed to get rid of forwards like Iaquinta, Amauri, Quaq and Vucinic in meaningfull ways, on certain timetables and positive terms for us.
And he has valued Giovinco as a 25mil player, when he has payed 12.5mil to get his half back...
What you got atm is only usefull thinking that this things will change all at once, this year.
I would agree with your vision, otherwise, but lets not ignore reality...
Marotta has yet to a starter LB, that would allow to change our formation and use wingers, ever since he joined us.
He has always failed to get rid of forwards like Iaquinta, Amauri, Quaq and Vucinic in meaningfull ways, on certain timetables and positive terms for us.
And he has valued Giovinco as a 25mil player, when he has payed 12.5mil to get his half back...
What you got atm is only usefull thinking that this things will change all at once, this year.
I would agree with your vision, otherwise, but lets not ignore reality...
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Depends how you judge talent. Much more? Surely his numbers would be more impressive. It's not just talent but how it is utilised.
As has been said already, he might be a brilliant dribbler and technical player, good shot etc, but if he's not a particularly smart player you can end up paying €25m for a talented waste.
As has been said already, he might be a brilliant dribbler and technical player, good shot etc, but if he's not a particularly smart player you can end up paying €25m for a talented waste.
I also see crap all the time that Iquinta, Quaq, Vucinic and Grosso have effectively been sold and yet they are still here and are still part of our problems.
So does Marotta's inability to get the LB that would allow us to use wingers.
Lets see those things happen first and then talk about wingers.
As it is now, we dont have a LB, we still have a 3-5-2 and we dont need a winger, so he will either be used as an AM or SS,
these are the facts that we are dealing with atm, the starters for these places are Tevez, Pogbs and Vidal, so whom Iturbe would replace?
Why would replacing them would be a primary concern and use the bulk of our transfer budget on that?
And how did iturbe proved that he is worthy of all that money?
So does Marotta's inability to get the LB that would allow us to use wingers.
Lets see those things happen first and then talk about wingers.
As it is now, we dont have a LB, we still have a 3-5-2 and we dont need a winger, so he will either be used as an AM or SS,
these are the facts that we are dealing with atm, the starters for these places are Tevez, Pogbs and Vidal, so whom Iturbe would replace?
Why would replacing them would be a primary concern and use the bulk of our transfer budget on that?
And how did iturbe proved that he is worthy of all that money?
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Iturbe possesses ideal characteristics for a winger that we need.Great pace and dat flair and fancy ofcourse.He can take on his man and obviously has a great left foot.
I dont quite see Berardi in the same mould.He has diff. characteristics tho proving to be very effective.I also see him more as an SS than a winger.
I dont quite see Berardi in the same mould.He has diff. characteristics tho proving to be very effective.I also see him more as an SS than a winger.
I've already responded to that elsewhere - high wages and poor clubs.
It's quite clear that we'll need another left back to get the most out of a 4-3-3 formation, but we do have current options. If you play a strongly attacking/weak defensively play out left (Giovinco for example) then we could field Caceres at left back, as he does for Uruguay. Or Ogbonna. Worst case scenario, Chiellini. But it's really only going to call for one player, with Caceres as back up.
As I've said a dozen times, if we don't buy a left back it's because we aren't chasing one, so you will see us stay with mostly 3-5-2 and the Caceres option. Asamoah is one of the most important reasons for this, as well as Marchisio and our stacked CM.
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So really you're saying it is down to personal choice?
As an extreme theoretical example it's like comparing Robben to Nedved.
It's quite clear that we'll need another left back to get the most out of a 4-3-3 formation, but we do have current options. If you play a strongly attacking/weak defensively play out left (Giovinco for example) then we could field Caceres at left back, as he does for Uruguay. Or Ogbonna. Worst case scenario, Chiellini. But it's really only going to call for one player, with Caceres as back up.
As I've said a dozen times, if we don't buy a left back it's because we aren't chasing one, so you will see us stay with mostly 3-5-2 and the Caceres option. Asamoah is one of the most important reasons for this, as well as Marchisio and our stacked CM.
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So really you're saying it is down to personal choice?
As an extreme theoretical example it's like comparing Robben to Nedved.
The "high wages and poor clubs" excuse stands the same this year again, so what makes you think that this year MArotta will start making miracles and sell them all?
All these options were tried and failed, thats why conte has never used them again and thats why he can use a 4man d-line.
This is what the man has been asking ever since he has joined.
And i also said a dozen times, that Marotta just cant get a Juve material starter LB, he just cant, every year there were rumors and efforts and Marotta has been failing each and every year.
With your logic, were never interested on a finisher of Dzeko's, RVP, Cavani's and Higuain class either.
Its not htat MArotta can get what he wants, he is very limited, incompetent and always forced to compromise.
His best transfers were opportunity targets, most of the times he simply has waited for the player's contract to expire and wait for them to be attracted by Juve's fainting prestige...
All these options were tried and failed, thats why conte has never used them again and thats why he can use a 4man d-line.
This is what the man has been asking ever since he has joined.
And i also said a dozen times, that Marotta just cant get a Juve material starter LB, he just cant, every year there were rumors and efforts and Marotta has been failing each and every year.
With your logic, were never interested on a finisher of Dzeko's, RVP, Cavani's and Higuain class either.
Its not htat MArotta can get what he wants, he is very limited, incompetent and always forced to compromise.
His best transfers were opportunity targets, most of the times he simply has waited for the player's contract to expire and wait for them to be attracted by Juve's fainting prestige...
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