Juan Cuadrado (47 Viewers)

Cuads legacy


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Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
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He was pretty mediocre as a fullback last season, even when he was fully fit.
Could you please be more specific? Are you talking about the beggining of the season or towards the end of it when he was fresh back from an injury and barelly started getting minutes there after Seria A was already sealed and lack of motivation was showing everywhere after getting KO’d by Ajax?

Honestly, i don’t even remember exactly and frankly it wasn’t exactly my point anyway, point is he was never a finished player and only loonies would think Sarri transformed Cuadrado in this amazing RB after a couple of weeks of training him there, the guy had it in him long before and is likely he wouldn’t even have plywd that much there if it wasn’t for Danillo and MdS’s injuries...also the fact his best/most decisive game was as RM/RW against ATM so far is nonetheless a good measure in proving my point here.

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He's had a couple of wishy-washy seasons where he seemed very expendable, but he's always been versatile and a team player.
Honestly, tell me who from our team besides a handfull of players haven’t had a couple of ‘wishy-washy’ seasons lately...
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,632
Reborn, reinvented? :lol:

The guy has always been crucial for us, the last two years he was injured for both second parts of the season after initially starting well so what was he supposed to do... also he always been an option to cover at RB/RWB/RM for many years already, good instinct by Sarri and the club to trust him there as a fixed starting role, however nonetheless pushed by the circumstances of Danillo and MdS getting injured simultaneously. Cuadrado might not be an expert defender but i’m pretty sure he knew how to make it work there long before Sarri got here.

He was just very unfortunate with injuries for the past couple of years, but i repeat, never has he been a finished player.
:agree: Sarri Boyz in full force.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I do think Sarri has played a part in Cuads having a great season so far. It can’t be a sheer coincidence that suddenly so many below par performing players are suddenly doing well. Even ones we thought we lost indefinitely to mental or age are doing well.

Cuads fitness has enabled him time to get a solid rhythm too.

I don’t see why it can’t be both related to Sarri and a healthy consistent run of games? The whole team looked out of sorts off and on last season and even when he had a run of games he too looked off.

He has the flair back too. You see it when he goes forward.

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It is nice to see this thread more active than the last two seasons though, and rightfully so. He is doing quite well at the moment.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,759
Reborn, reinvented? :lol:

The guy has always been crucial for us, the last two years he was injured for both second parts of the season after initially starting well so what was he supposed to do... also he always been an option to cover at RB/RWB/RM for many years already, good instinct by Sarri and the club to trust him there as a fixed starting role, however nonetheless pushed by the circumstances of Danillo and MdS getting injured simultaneously. Cuadrado might not be an expert defender but i’m pretty sure he knew how to make it work there long before Sarri got here.

He was just very unfortunate with injuries for the past couple of years, but i repeat, never has he been a finished player.
He has always been hit-or-miss for us, and frequently very frustrating. Crucial at times, no doubt. He was often hesitant with his decisions and looked like he was playing with his handbrake up.

He looks a lot more natural and relaxed now, like he has the freedom to play his game and not be restricted with rigid instructions.

So yes, "reborn" :lol::lol2::lol3::rofl:
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
He has always been hit-or-miss for us, and frequently very frustrating. Crucial at times, no doubt. He was often hesitant with his decisions and looked like he was playing with his handbrake up.

He looks a lot more natural and relaxed now, like he has the freedom to play his game and not be restricted with rigid instructions.

So yes, "reborn" :lol::lol2::lol3::rofl:
And you came up with that conclusion after seeing him for barelly a month or two into the season right?

So in 4 years he was a hit and miss and in the one month Sarri got to work with him he is already reborn, absolutely relaxed and a different player, ok right. :baus:
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,632
And you came up with that conclusion after seeing him for barelly a month or two into the season right?

So in 4 years he was a hit and miss and in the one month Sarri got to work with him he is already reborn, absolutely relaxed and a different player, ok right. :baus:
Cuads is always going to be a hot and cold player, that's not gonna change. Wait til he has a dip in form and half the forum is gonna shit on him again.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
I do think Sarri has played a part in Cuads having a great season so far. It can’t be a sheer coincidence that suddenly so many below par performing players are suddenly doing well. Even ones we thought we lost indefinitely to mental or age are doing well.

Cuads fitness has enabled him time to get a solid rhythm too.

I don’t see why it can’t be both related to Sarri and a healthy consistent run of games? The whole team looked out of sorts off and on last season and even when he had a run of games he too looked off.

He has the flair back too. You see it when he goes forward.

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It is nice to see this thread more active than the last two seasons though, and rightfully so. He is doing quite well at the moment.
I find it hard following this logic, many players hit top form early in the season last year just aswell, how can we talk about players being totally revived or better than previous years when we’ve barelly seen them a month or two into the season so far... many things can still change as most players go through patches of good and poor form for the duration of the campaign and even injuries or off-field activities could/might have a big influence in everything.

Honestly, if you would have posted that from February/March onwords i would understand because there was plenty of time to draw conclusions but at this moment in time is just reactionary and rather baseless.
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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I find it hard following this logic, many players hit top form early in the season last year just aswell, how can we talk about players being totally revived or better than previous years when we’ve barelly seen them a month or two into the season so far... many things can still change as most players go through patches of good and poor form for the duration of the campaign and even injuries or off-field activities could/might have a big influence in everything.

Honestly, if you would have posted that from February/March onwords i would understand because there was plenty of time to draw conclusions but at this moment in time is just reactionary and rather baseless.
So it would be better if we just shut down the forum till march
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
How about not drawing baseless conclusions from comparing how X is doing under Sarri after a month vs how X has done in 4 years under Allegri for a starter?
What baseless conclusions are you talking about? Between club and country these players have been playing a ton of matches. Already two international breaks under their belts this season. Plus our players have already played in two competitions for club.

Players like bonucci, Cuads, Higuain, Pjanic hell even Matuidi and Bentancur look really good so far. Dybala was one player that started off well last season then dropped off. This season he has a much different vibe. Even Sandro is looking WC again.

But hey, folks, it’s only the beginning of the season. We can’t attribute good form to anything yet because data analytics are inconclusive.

Everyone log off until June. At that point we can regroup and challenge our own “now” baseless conclusion.

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Alin, you talk about bad “patches”. We had players have bad patches that lasted over a season or most of a season. Was it too soon to have doubts about players like bonucci or Sandro bouncing back before we could draw our own conclusions?Overall, this team is playing better. Almost all teams hit lows between playing in so many competitions and international duty.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,759
What baseless conclusions are you talking about? Between club and country these players have been playing a ton of matches. Already two international breaks under their belts this season. Plus our players have already played in two competitions for club.

Players like bonucci, Cuads, Higuain, Pjanic hell even Matuidi and Bentancur look really good so far. Dybala was one player that started off well last season then dropped off. This season he has a much different vibe. Even Sandro is looking WC again.

But hey, folks, it’s only the beginning of the season. We can’t attribute good form to anything yet because data analytics are inconclusive.

Everyone log off until June. At that point we can regroup and challenge our own “now” baseless conclusion.

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Alin, you talk about bad “patches”. We had players have bad patches that last over a season or most of a season. Overall, this team is playing better. Almost all teams hit lows between playing in so many competitions and international duty.
We shouldn't comment on a player's form because that form will inevitably dip.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
We shouldn't comment on a player's form because that form will inevitably dip.
Exactly.

Silly us for making conclusions.

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He has always been hit-or-miss for us, and frequently very frustrating. Crucial at times, no doubt. He was often hesitant with his decisions and looked like he was playing with his handbrake up.

He looks a lot more natural and relaxed now, like he has the freedom to play his game and not be restricted with rigid instructions.

So yes, "reborn" :lol::lol2::lol3::rofl:
He definitely looks more willing to take risks going forward. It’s nice to see
 
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duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
What baseless conclusions are you talking about? Between club and country these players have been playing a ton of matches. Already two international breaks under their belts this season. Plus our players have already played in two competitions for club.

Players like bonucci, Cuads, Higuain, Pjanic hell even Matuidi and Bentancur look really good so far. Dybala was one player that started off well last season then dropped off. This season he has a much different vibe. Even Sandro is looking WC again.

But hey, folks, it’s only the beginning of the season. We can’t attribute good form to anything yet because data analytics are inconclusive.

Everyone log off until June. At that point we can regroup and challenge our own “now” baseless conclusion.

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Alin, you talk about bad “patches”. We had players have bad patches that lasted over a season or most of a season. Was it too soon to have doubts about players like bonucci or Sandro bouncing back before we could draw our own conclusions?Overall, this team is playing better. Almost all teams hit lows between playing in so many competitions and international duty.
If they were in bad form or underperforming I guess data would be quite conclusive

Besides JGC is being use as FB with Sarri and that's a fact. Last time he was used as one was Fiorentina, after that he was a winger with multifunctional skills for the rest so he was used as a stop-gap in different positions so I guess we can at least talk about it
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
What baseless conclusions are you talking about? Between club and country these players have been playing a ton of matches. Already two international breaks under their belts this season. Plus our players have already played in two competitions for club.

Players like bonucci, Cuads, Higuain, Pjanic hell even Matuidi and Bentancur look really good so far. Dybala was one player that started off well last season then dropped off. This season he has a much different vibe. Even Sandro is looking WC again.

But hey, folks, it’s only the beginning of the season. We can’t attribute good form to anything yet because data analytics are inconclusive.

Everyone log off until June. At that point we can regroup and challenge our own “now” baseless conclusion.

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Alin, you talk about bad “patches”. We had players have bad patches that lasted over a season or most of a season. Was it too soon to have doubts about players like bonucci or Sandro bouncing back before we could draw our own conclusions?Overall, this team is playing better. Almost all teams hit lows between playing in so many competitions and international duty.
So much cherry picking i don’t even know where to start because i can factually contradict almost everything you just said, starting from Sandro already getting back to his old self since last season after previously going through a delicate contractual situation all the way to you talking about players being reborn and better under a certain coach after barelly a month into the campaign so i guess we’re going nowhere with this as you drifted miles away from my main point here anyway so it’s better to leave it as it stands for now before taking this embarassing baseless debate any further.

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We shouldn't comment on a player's form because that form will inevitably dip.
Drawing baseless and reactionary conclusions about how reborn,better and different X player already is after only a month under a new coach compared to how he’s been doing for at least the duration of an entire season unde the previous coach isn’t the same thing with analizing how a player is doing so far and whatever other debates might occur from it. Learn the difference.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,759
So much cherry picking i don’t even know where to start because i can factually contradict almost everything you just said, starting from Sandro already getting back to his old self since last season after previously going through a delicate contractual situation all the way to you talking about players being reborn and better under a certain coach after barelly a month into the campaign so i guess we’re going nowhere with this as you drifted miles away from my main point here anyway so it’s better to leave it as it stands for now before taking this embarassing baseless debate any further.

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Drawing baseless and reactionary conclusions about how reborn,better and different X player already is after only a month under a new coach compared to how he’s been doing for at least the duration of an entire season unde the previous coach isn’t the same thing with analizing how a player is doing so far and whatever other debates might occur from it. Learn the difference.
Sure thing, uncle. You really concluded a whole lot from my simple sentence of three words
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
Obviously, yes, because you take out all details and circumstances to draw reactionary comparisons between x or y player under Sarri vs under Allegri after only a month into the season.

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Do i really have to bold the Sarri compared to Allegri impact on X or Y player part being a baseless conclusion after only a month so everyone eventually gets it or what!?
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,816
So much cherry picking i don’t even know where to start because i can factually contradict almost everything you just said, starting from Sandro already getting back to his old self since last season after previously going through a delicate contractual situation all the way to you talking about players being reborn and better under a certain coach after barelly a month into the campaign so i guess we’re going nowhere with this as you drifted miles away from my main point here anyway so it’s better to leave it as it stands for now before taking this embarassing baseless debate any further.

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Drawing baseless and reactionary conclusions about how reborn,better and different X player already is after only a month under a new coach compared to how he’s been doing for at least the duration of an entire season unde the previous coach isn’t the same thing with analizing how a player is doing so far and whatever other debates might occur from it. Learn the difference.
We are two months into the season, enough to make a few observations about how our players are doing. No one's saying that Sarri has achieved more than Allegri or that we will win the CL, just that some players are looking good at this part of the season. Do you really hate Sarri so much that we can't comment on anything positive he has done so far?
 

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