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DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,657
I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
:tup:

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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
I actually find it funny because I usually laugh at hypocrisy and what some are promoting is the epitome of that. It's a patter, try to follow it and you will get what I mean, in the end you will start laughing, there is really humour there.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Not all. Most of our players are great

We have made doubles 3 years straight but we can improve in certain areas. If you pay attention i signal very precise units of our group. Youll not see mee moaning about Higuain, Dybala and Sandro ie. They are excellent players
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,657
Not all. Most of our players are great

We have made doubles 3 years straight but we can improve in certain areas. If you pay attention i signal very precise units of our group. Youll not see mee moaning about Higuain, Dybala and Sandro ie. They are excellent players
Which is strange, since they all played a terrible 2nd half, yet still you only criticize certain players you don't like.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Which is strange, since they all played a terrible 2nd half, yet still you only criticize certain players you don't like.
That because i know what tey can offer. Higuain was bad,, dyabala was terrible, amauri-like performance, but both are players i have seeen what they can offer. A bad day happens to everyone but i know how they play, what are they strenghts...and those strenghts are really good.

For example, dybala is a young lad with great technique, he has an insane left foot and he sees things others dont. he is clearly talented and i know he will deliver if he is given the chance. he is good in what he is assinged to do.

Higuain is a pizza guy that scores a lot when given the chances. He can score with both legs and even with his head. He is a natural goalscorer and you can see it just by looking at him. He played bad in the final... but again...it was because he is a supreme choker? or it was because he wasnt supplied properly?. While CR7 was in heaven picking us...Higuain never received a great ball...and he even asisted mandz when he could.

My point is that this 2 players (dyb,Hig) are great in what they do. They will score and have the technique to do it. Its a matter of us finding a proper system to make them work to their maximum capacity. Their talent is palpable. They are not random, they are guarantees. I up to us to make them work.

Other players, have clear deficiencies that are not easy to work around even with a system switch, because innately their are just like that.
 

Jvcro

Junior Member
May 11, 2017
384
That because i know what tey can offer. Higuain was bad,, dyabala was terrible, amauri-like performance, but both are players i have seeen what they can offer. A bad day happens to everyone but i know how they play, what are they strenghts...and those strenghts are really good.

For example, dybala is a young lad with great technique, he has an insane left foot and he sees things others dont. he is clearly talented and i know he will deliver if he is given the chance. he is good in what he is assinged to do.

Higuain is a pizza guy that scores a lot when given the chances. He can score with both legs and even with his head. He is a natural goalscorer and you can see it just by looking at him. He played bad in the final... but again...it was because he is a supreme choker? or it was because he wasnt supplied properly?. While CR7 was in heaven picking us...Higuain never received a great ball...and he even asisted mandz when he could.

My point is that this 2 players (dyb,Hig) are great in what they do. They will score and have the technique to do it. Its a matter of us finding a proper system to make them work to their maximum capacity. Their talent is palpable. They are not random, they are guarantees. I up to us to make them work.

Other players, have clear deficiencies that are not easy to work around even with a system switch, because innately their are just like that.
I start to feel kinda stupid talk anymore about this. But do you maybe think Ronaldo is much faster player and can be on some assists and balls Gonzalo couldnt.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
I start to feel kinda stupid talk anymore about this. But do you maybe think Ronaldo is much faster player and can be on some assists and balls Gonzalo couldnt.
Well just dont. I could answer your question but theres no point. We have different views so lets call it a day.
For example, i say that Higuain got no service... you say he is fat and coudnt get to the passes or create by himself. Theres is a discrepancy here, but its fine. everyone is entitled to their opinion. No problem about that.
 

Jvcro

Junior Member
May 11, 2017
384
Well just dont. I could answer your question but theres no point. We have different views so lets call it a day.
For example, i say that Higuain got no service... you say he is fat and coudnt get to the passes or create by himself. Theres is a discrepancy here, but its fine. everyone is entitled to their opinion. No problem about that.
:tup:
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,930
I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
Higuaín is a choker in front of goal tbf. Otherwise, he usually contributes to our play, even in important matches.

Cuadrado was never good enough to be starter for a top team. Doesn't mean he's shit but we can surely upgrade over him.

Khedira is not shit either but he's a limited player. Good enough for the bench and to dominate Serie A.

Dybala is great, our most talented player but had a subpar season. It may have a lot to do with the fact he's being played out of position.

Now, I don't know who you're talking about but most people I see on this forum aren't calling our players shit (maybe except for Sami lol). They're just being critical in a healthy way rather than sucking our players' dicks.

Edit: Sell Bonucci.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
88,998
Higuaín is a choker in front of goal tbf. Otherwise, he usually contributes to our play, even in important matches.

Cuadrado was never good enough to be starter for a top team. Doesn't mean he's shit but we can surely upgrade over him.

Khedira is not shit either but he's a limited player. Good enough for the bench and to dominate Serie A.

Dybala is great, our most talented player but had a subpar season. It may have a lot to do with the fact he's being played out of position.

Now, I don't know who you're talking about but most people I see on this forum aren't calling our players shit (maybe except for Sami lol). They're just being critical in a healthy way rather than sucking our players' dicks.

Edit: Sell Bonucci.
I didn't notice I was sucking our players' dicks.

Btw, it's not being critical in a healthy way and I'll tell you why. Imagine had we won the finals 1-0. We would've won everything possible and stand out as the best club out there. Had we won the last match, you think you'd see the same critics? Nope.

We lost one match. And because we lost that match now all of a sudden: Higuain is a choker (guy who scored around 250 goals), Khedira is shit, Dybala being questioned, Cuadrado not good enough. I'm not a huge fan of Bonucci but now people want him sold too. So look. That's one...two...three...four...five players. That's five players being doubted because we lost against Real Madrid in the CL final. That's half of our squad. Some want Gigi retired so that's more than half of our team. More than 50% of the team that won Serie A for many years, Coppa for many years and squad that has reached 2 CL finals in 3 years.

And yes, we should keep investing. And yes, we should buy WC players if possible. But that's totally different.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,930
I didn't notice I was sucking our players' dicks.

Btw, it's not being critical in a healthy way and I'll tell you why. Imagine had we won the finals 1-0. We would've won everything possible and stand out as the best club out there. Had we won the last match, you think you'd see the same critics? Nope.

We lost one match. And because we lost that match now all of a sudden: Higuain is a choker (guy who scored around 250 goals), Khedira is shit, Dybala being questioned, Cuadrado not good enough. I'm not a huge fan of Bonucci but now people want him sold too. So look. That's one...two...three...four...five players. That's five players being doubted because we lost against Real Madrid in the CL final. That's half of our squad. Some want Gigi retired so that's more than half of our team. More than 50% of the team that won Serie A for many years, Coppa for many years and squad that has reached 2 CL finals in 3 years.

And yes, we should keep investing. And yes, we should buy WC players if possible. But that's totally different.
I wasn't talking about you when I mentioned the dick sucking :p

I know what you mean and I would agree if I saw that most people are saying our players are shit.

Of course if we had won the final, no one would be so critical but that would happen to every fan of any team that wins the CL. It's much harder to admit your flaws when your team is winning.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
:tup:

We've had the second best season in the world, it's been nothing but pure knee-jerking in here the past few days.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
There is no shame in admitting the utter failure called khedira.


There also is no shame in pointing out having a midfield destroyer or fit pre-injury Marchisio would have seen us drag through the difficult period and recatch our breath.



Khedira is disgusting and has to go.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
You're being ridiculously over the top once more Zach, Khedira isn't quite up to standard in a team aiming to be the best in the world, but he's a very good player, just below WC levels.

So we should absolutely be trying to improve on him, but nothing he has shown warrants the descriptions you're giving.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
You're being ridiculously over the top once more Zach, Khedira isn't quite up to standard in a team aiming to be the best in the world, but he's a very good player, just below WC levels.

So we should absolutely be trying to improve on him, but nothing he has shown warrants the descriptions you're giving.
The Madrid game and first part of the season when he wasent carried


He was good. He's done. Finished. Past it.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,076
I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
:tup: perfect, absolutely perfect comment. Not much else to add.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
The Madrid game and first part of the season when he wasent carried


He was good. He's done. Finished. Past it.
He's been excellent in the second part of the season and in all knock-out matches until the final. Where pretty much everyone had a shocker.

Ffs, I don't even like the guy. He's pretty much my first option to be replaced as well. But you're making it sound as if he's freaking Isla.

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I hate it how, just because we lost a CL final against Real (no need to mention how good they are), all of a sudden majority of our players turn into shit according to some.

Jesus Christ people. We won Coppa, we won Serie A and we reached the CL finals. We threw out Barca.

Serie A was/is not a big challange, but that doesn't mean it's an easy take, as we play our main players in it. Some take it way too easy and same people would piss blood out of anger if we lose the title next year. No need to mention it's quite harder as well considering how many we won in a row. Motivation is drying out surely.

There's a reason we won 2 trophies and reached the finals. It's because we have a good squad. I keep reading how Khedira is shit, how Cuadrado is shit, how Pipita is a choker and how Dybala isn't that good, among other things. Really, are you fucking serious? Pjanic and Khedira proved 99.99% people wrong when they showed how it's actually possible to play both of them in a two-man midfield while switching the formation. How Khedira sucks, yeah, sure.

I do agree we need huge signings in order to make our team better. But that doesn't include selling 1/3 of our squad just because of the CL loss. Other teams, especially Italian ones, can only dream about being at the top. We did that and there's no need to shit on our players just for the sake of it. If they were in fact that bad then we wouldn't even win anything, let alone reach the finals in Europe.

What we need to do know is keep our best/star players and sign top names in order to make squad stronger next year.
Yup.
 

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