Javier Pastore - Palermo - AM/SS (7 Viewers)

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Nicholas

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Jan 30, 2008
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When Zampa will hear or listen Real's/Barca's/Utd/Inter/Milan/Chelsea/City's real offer he'd be laughing at our offer and mocking us.

Wake up everyone and stop building dreams, if the big clubs with cash want him we have no chance.
Real Madrid - Canales, Ozil and Kaka

Inter - Sneijder and Countinho

Chelsea - Don't play a system that would incorporate him

Manchester United - Don't have the money

City - Silva and Tevez

AC Milan - Have to pay for Ibrahimovic and also seem obssessed with Balotelli

Our only rivals are Barcelona and I think they will want Fabregas anyway.

We really do have a chance at Pastore, more than you think Rab.
 

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Nicholas

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Jan 30, 2008
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Giovinco has no future at Juventus and is worth around 6 Million and Lanza has no future either and is probably valued around 4-5 Million.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Real Madrid - Canales, Ozil and Kaka

Inter - Sneijder and Countinho

Chelsea - Don't play a system that would incorporate him

Manchester United - Don't have the money

City - Silva and Tevez

AC Milan - Have to pay for Ibrahimovic and also seem obssessed with Balotelli

Our only rivals are Barcelona and I think they will want Fabregas anyway.

We really do have a chance at Pastore, more than you think Rab.
Kaka is leaving Madrid and Canales isn't an important player Mourinho can rely on.

If Benitez leaves Inter so will Coutinho I'd say. (He can also play as a 2nd striker) replacing Milito.

City, Man Utd - I agree, but you never know.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Giovinco has no future at Juventus and is worth around 6 Million and Lanza has no future either and is probably valued around 4-5 Million.
Yeah add these numbers to the 20 mil and you'll get a 30 mil deal for Pastore !! Who is he the new Maradona or something.

I've watched Pastore even before he stepped a foot in serie A and remember saying he'll be a hit here before his move but he wasn't an extraordinary talent in Argentina. He was a decent talent there that showed glimpses of great touches but he's no aguero for example.

Right now its a hype, he's the new name out there to many and he's in a great form lately thats why everyone is creaming about him. Remember last season how everyone was creaming about Zarate and how he raped serie A defenders back then. Right now hardly anyone talks about him.

Thats called "hype". He showed promise but its crazy to demand such a price for a guy that hardly completed half a season in italy (let alone been tested in a European stage).
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Do you not think he's one of the hottest talents in Europe at the moment? Thing is Pastore did it last season with Palermo aswell. While Zarate only did it over one season ;)
 

Djabrail

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May 23, 2008
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#69
When Zampa will hear or listen Real's/Barca's/Utd/Inter/Milan/Chelsea/City's real offer he'd be laughing at our offer and mocking us.

Wake up everyone and stop building dreams, if the big clubs with cash want him we have no chance.
And they do.

Get us two fullbacks and a ST first. 40 mil is way too much right now.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Do you not think he's one of the hottest talents in Europe at the moment? Thing is Pastore did it last season with Palermo aswell. While Zarate only did it over one season ;)
Key word "at the moment" and yes he's name is everywhere right now, But thats hardly says anything. Giovinco's name was everywhere just two years ago (same with Zarate) and countless other players out there yet people are hardly talking about them today.

Like I've said Pastore is talented and showed that in Argentina's Primera Division but he wasn't an extraordinary talent there. There is a reason why a 17 year old aguero was sold for 20 mil euros yet 19 year old Pastore did cost Palermo just 6 millions !!

these days mid-table Italian club presidents are absolutely hyping there players to the sky to make some profit from there sales later (specially the clown Zamparini). Plus serie A today is hardly a place to test the quality of players in, that was true 10 years ago but not today. For 30 millions tag price i'd expect a big performance on an international stage + consistently quality performance for a couple of years atleast.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Zamparini " there is a release clause at 70mil but I am willing to discuss players being used in exchange. Offers received are from Real 25mil but I said no. If Juve want him I am willing to discuss but the price will be high"
If true then it means that Mourinho wants him and rates him. Another recognition for the boy.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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There is a reason why a 17 year old aguero was sold for 20 mil euros yet 19 year old Pastore did cost Palermo just 6 millions !!
Hmm, I don't think it's the right way to look at things. The 21 year old Kaka cost Milan 8.5 millions even if he was a world cup winner before he joined Milan. There are probably tons of examples with quality south Americans who were sold for more and yet did worse than those sold for less. Also, players peak at different age and the advertising of a young south American plays a big role in the price.

You don't need to look at all how did a 17 or 18 year old Pastore play in Argentina when for a second year running you can watch him in "our" league. Judge him from his time in Palermo. If you think that he wasn't/isn't good enough or doesn't have the potential in order to pay 15,20,40m eur, then it's fine. The time as a teenager in Argentina is meaningless in this case.

It's Zamparini, man.
Doesn't mean that he's lying about everything he says. :)
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
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#78
If true then it means that Mourinho wants him and rates him. Another recognition for the boy.
Zamparini is probably one of the biggest liars out there. One day he's selling his club the next he's staying. One day he likes Juve and the next day he says Inter are the new Juve (as a cheaters that is). I still remember when he was comparing Amauri to Drogba just to sell his ass to us :howler:

And if madrid really wanted Pastore why didn't they press on that matter. Every south american player's dream is to play for Madrid and Pastore would hardly turn down such a move.

Zamparini is A Pathological Liar seriously.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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#79
The one thing Pastore has in his favour is that he's suited and adapted very well into Serie A. Very few players who play in the position he does can adapt, look at Diego for example. There really is not the risk with Pastore considering he's already tearing up the league week in week out, will Dzeko and Neymar do the same? that's the only worry with both of them.
 

V

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Doesn't mean that he's lying about everything he says. :)
The guy is a pathological liar, borderline delusional, but knows how to sell his assets(in a way reminds me of Mamic). No way Mourinho wants him in Real. There's just no place for him there. Even if they sell Kaka, who would he bench? Ozil? No way. This is just a stunt to raise his price.
 
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