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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,788
Usually the detective was making the game lively on day 1, but this time the D either isn't here (Katie?) or investigated a C. Or maybe he's here but still thinking who to investigate.
IF the D hasn't investigated and finds a G when he investigates, He/She must tell us about the investigation. Remember that the Gs will know who did you investigate so no reason to hide if you investigated a G.
If you investigate a C then don't make it public, at least not until your life is in danger. Do not contact the C either if it's not a special role, since that C can be recruited.
The D should try to find the bodyguard and work with him. But do not try to find him via PMs because a Gangster might trick you into revealing your role and then the Gs can whack you.

What I said is general knowledge for the regular players, but we have newbies and it was good to teach them how it is supposed to be played in case a newbie is the detective.
Are you trying to get the D to reveal him/herself?

To the D: don't make yourself known to anyone. Thank you.
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Are you trying to get the D to reveal him/herself?

To the D: don't make yourself known to anyone. Thank you.
That is partly what I said, fool.

But if the D investigates a G then he should say it. That's how I won you the game some months ago when I got Fred on day 1. The Bodyguard will protect the D from whacking and we can lynch the investigated gangster.

But you know this very well. Why are you then telling the D not to reveal himself under any condition?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,788
That is partly what I said, fool.

But if the D investigates a G then he should say it. That's how I won you the game some months ago when I got Fred on day 1. The Bodyguard will protect the D from whacking and we can lynch the investigated gangster.

But you know this very well. Why are you then telling the D not to reveal himself under any condition?
:rolleyes: The D should not reveal himself on day 1 for the sake of 1 G. You know this, although the rest may not. Lose the D now and the game is all but lost for the Cs.

Lose the D now and the Gs will hide among random voting while whacking the Cs, one by one, while they also eliminate themselves with random votes thanks to being D-less.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
I see that Janna has most of the votes and I don't see a reason for that.

Usually a No Lynch suits the G, but since we started with 12:4, which will become 11:5, and since we don't have a strong suspect, this time we really can't risk losing two civilians. That's why I vote No Lynch. We will need a foolish G to make a mistake or the D to investigate a G in order to start from somewhere. The way things stand, nobody should be sacrificed.
Except the inactives. I'm always for voting them out. But the inactive person is Katie and we all have a weak spot for her so I suggest we don't lynch her :p
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
:rolleyes: The D should not reveal himself on day 1 for the sake of 1 G. You know this, although the rest may not. Lose the D now and the game is all but lost for the Cs.

Lose the D now and the Gs will hide among random voting while whacking the Cs, one by one, while they also eliminate themselves with random votes thanks to being D-less.
How can we lose the D? How?

One day the jailer can jail the D and save him from being whacked. The next day the bodyguard will protect him. By revealing himself the D makes sure that he won't be whacked. If he doesn't reveal himself there is always the chance of a lucky guess by the Gs.

Unless the D can find the BG and the jailer without revealing himself publicly, then he should reveal himself.
But only if he finds a G and proves his role when we lynch that G.

You definitely know all this after playing so many games. Why do you keep acting ignorant?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,788
How can we lose the D? How?

One day the jailer can jail the D and save him from being whacked. The next day the bodyguard will protect him. By revealing himself the D makes sure that he won't be whacked. If he doesn't reveal himself there is always the chance of a lucky guess by the Gs.

Unless the D can find the BG and the jailer without revealing himself publicly, then he should reveal himself.
But only if he finds a G and proves his role when we lynch that G.

You definitely know all this after playing so many games. Why do you keep acting ignorant?
The jailer and bodyguard can be whacked or lynched at any moment. Then the D and rest of Cs are screwed. So no, he is not protected.

Anyway, the No Lynch is good with me.

I agree with alen.

No Lynch
But not about the D revealing himself, right?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
The jailer and bodyguard can be whacked or lynched at any moment. Then the D and rest of Cs are screwed. So no, he is not protected.

Anyway, the No Lynch is good with me.
It will take at least 3 days before both jailers and the BG are out. Until then the D will finish most of the work and be protected. But the chance those special roles to be all cleaned after three days is minimal.
There is absolutely no point for the D to work from the shadows if he investigates a G. Yeah, he can stay in the shadow and blaze the G the next day, but that way he will lose an investigation.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
TWW is right. There is no reason for the detective reveal themselves so early.
There is no reason to do it if he investigates a C. But if he investigates a G there are millions of reasons to reveal himself.

I'll kill myslef and kill both of you if the D is one of you two and you already know a G without telling it to us.
 
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  • Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter #174
    Voting Update:

    Salvo - No Lynch
    Sheik - No Lynch
    TWW - No Lynch

    LowLife - Nzoric

    Janna - Katie

    Sab - Janna
    ALC - Janna

    Melo - Sheik

    All the rest still to vote.
     

    Quetzalcoatl

    It ain't hard to tell
    Aug 22, 2007
    66,788
    It will take at least 3 days before both jailers and the BG are out. Until then the D will finish most of the work and be protected. But the chance those special roles to be all cleaned after three days is minimal.
    There is absolutely no point for the D to work from the shadows if he investigates a G. Yeah, he can stay in the shadow and blaze the G the next day, but that way he will lose an investigation.
    WHy 3 days? The G whack someone today, 1 in 6 chance, one of them is J or BG. 2 days, 1 in 3 chance.

    And they only need one out. The jailer and BG can't protect the same person 2 days straight, they can alternate. But if 1 is gone, then the other saves the D today, tomorrow he's dead.

    Revealing the D so early has never been a good idea, never been done. You are trying to take advantage of the fact that there are so many newbies.
     

    X Æ A-12

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    Sep 4, 2006
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    WHy 3 days? The G whack someone today, 1 in 6 chance, one of them is J or BG. 2 days, 1 in 3 chance.

    And they only need one out. The jailer and BG can't protect the same person 2 days straight, they can alternate. But if 1 is gone, then the other saves the D today, tomorrow he's dead.

    Revealing the D so early has never been a good idea, never been done. You are trying to take advantage of the fact that there are so many newbies.
    :agree:
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
    54,023
    Revealing the D so early has never been a good idea, never been done. You are trying to take advantage of the fact that there are so many newbies.
    How was it not done ever? I alone did it twice and we won those games easily (although the second time I made Hoori act as the D and cover for me).

    It's incredibly stupid to investigate a G and hide it. Will the D take that knowledge with him to his grave?

    Explain to me, if you were the D and you investigated a G today, how would you have played it?
     

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