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s4tch

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“Wednesday July 27, Soldier Field Chicago, Bayern Munich-Milan,” a statement from the Curva Sud Ultras begins.

“A normal friendly, a game like so many played over the summer, with a lot of tickets already on sale. But then…

“Looking at the schedule for the Europa League, coming sixth in the Italian League, the place that we are 'chasing’ would mean being involved in a preliminary round on that very date.



“Is this a gross error on the part of a club in disarray? Or can we assume the club has already decided to lose sixth, to go on tour in the USA?

“To us it seems clear that the second option is widely supported by the ridiculous results against teams lower than us in both squad and prestige.”
no shit, and they are calling us rubentus

#totonero #whatisfairplay #vergogna
 

pavluska

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lucky sampdoria. imagine if ranocchia played for them.

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lol me. I wasn't reading anything Bologna related either.

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I'm not putting verratti as a regista. i'm putting him somewhat in a similar role as pogba. 2 players doing mostly the covering so he can have plenty of offensive thinking whilst remaining a cm. DDR was an example, he's supposed to be excellent for the NT. I'd probably pick Motta

Pirlo has been called up alot, not sure lately but conte's $#@!ing about in the friendlies. Pirlo should never be a starter at the euro's

Oh i'm with you on Berardi. And this is the issue : the italian forwards are THAT poor :D. El Sharaawy has done wel...zaza when he got chances...aaaand ?

Undecided about perin, but that donnarumma, jesus christ



Fun fact. Untill not so long ago, serie a had no limitations on the non EU. But for a long time, they did had heavy rules on the number of italians. That worked. The '2 non eu' rule is bull$#@!.

Make it 6+6 homegrown/italian, and remove the non eu rule.
You did place Verratti as regista. You placed him in the center of a 3-man mid (DDR-Verratti-Marchisio). That's not the Pogba role lol.

Pirlo was tried at first like many other players. Pirlo was poor as expected and hasn't been called up since. So, I'm not sure why you think Pirlo is poised to start at Euro.

The forwards selection is poor but still isn't that poor where Berardi should start. You're overrating Berardi like many if you think he should.
No, Zaza has been poor with Italy. He's a good 4th-choice striker for Juve but isn't a int'l level player. Even Immobile was slightly better than Zaza. Neither should be part of the team.

Perin, like Marchisio, is injured.



Can't make that Italy-specific rule because EU won't let you.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Napoli :rofl:

Serie A :rofl:

Walter Gargano punched Napoli Vice-President Edo De Laurentiis and – egged on by Ezequiel Lavezzi – and called Neapolitans “rude.”

The midfielder gave a lengthy interview to Mexican radio station Rg La Deportiva and had some truly colourful anecdotes about his time at Napoli.

“In my first six months at Napoli, I had a fight with the then-captain, Francesco Montervino. After a clash in training I complained and he said: ‘Shut up, shorty.’

“Perhaps he thought I wouldn’t react because I am a bit small, but he got the wrong guy. I gave him two blows and he didn’t even react. He tried to scare me by saying ‘I’m going to kill you.’

“There they talk a lot during a fight, whereas I am of the idea that if we are to give each other a kicking, we should just get on with it.

“Lavezzi was there urging me on, saying ‘hit him, hit him!’ I was young and didn’t think much about the consequences.”

Gargano remained at Napoli and had further fisticuffs with the son of President Aurelio De Laurentiis, but again Lavezzi was the very vocal by-stander.

“We were returning from Rome on the team bus after a game with Lazio and Edo De Laurentiis put one of his father’s films on the TV.

“We all started jeering and told him to remove it. Edo was irritated by this. At the time he wasn’t the Vice-President of Napoli, but he is now because they couldn’t think of anything else he was capable of doing with his life, so they put him into the football club.

“He walked past Lavezzi and told him he was going to ‘beat up the little guy,’ putting a hand on my leg to tell me I shouldn’t have jeered and shouted to take the film off. I told him it wasn’t me, as I was listening to music.

“Lavezzi continued to provoke me and told me to hit him. At the end, we did reach a physical confrontation. He threatened me and I’d hit him.

“Eventually when we arrived at the Castel Volturno training ground we got off the bus to continue the discussion, but he pulled back and said he was wrong, so he realised it wasn’t me jeering. It ended there.”

Gargano didn’t have kind words for the people of Naples either.

“I have two Neapolitan children and I can say it’s true, the people of the north don’t like them. Naples is a crazy and truly chaotic city, but that makes it unique.

“I admire the way they experience football, even if I don’t share their culture. They are insolent and rude. They have the kind of attitude where at any moment they start shouting at you to come over, not even asking please or waiting for you to finish your meal.

“It is a unique experience for a player to be there, as the passion is immense. If things go well, you can’t leave the house. Mind you, that’s true if things go badly too!”
 

X Æ A-12

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“A normal friendly, a game like so many played over the summer, with a lot of tickets already on sale. But then…

“Looking at the schedule for the Europa League, coming sixth in the Italian League, the place that we are ‘chasing’ would mean being involved in a preliminary round on that very date.



“Is this a gross error on the part of a club in disarray? Or can we assume the club has already decided to lose sixth, to go on tour in the USA?

“To us it seems clear that the second option is widely supported by the ridiculous results against teams lower than us in both squad and prestige.

“If the possibility of termination linked to the preliminary rounds does exist, there would be more revenue gained from playing a trophy for sponsors than playing against low-calibre teams in the Europa League.

“Our only lifeline is the final of the Coppa Italia, we’ve arrived in the final after many years, but the final was only the minimum goal given the path we had.

“The plan is to get to the Europa League only through the Coppa Italia, and if not renounce European competition for another year to make room for profitable but useless summer trophies.

“This is about the worst thing that can happen in football and in the history of Milan, as well as being a blatant mockery of the fans, because lets not forget that even people who attend a dirty theatre pay for a ticket.

“Let’s leave out the celebrations at the stadium on Sunday for a draw [with Frosinone] that was just a red herring.

“The stadium is now filled only by children and football schools, who don’t pay and serve only to allow the club to fill the empty seats that years of mismanagement have created.

“Children are being used to hide their dirty business, children who in their innocence went crazy for goals which were a farce in reality.

“Once again the losers are those who have Milan in their heart and soul, ruined by this leadership and their nonsense.

“A leadership which is hiding behind repressive laws which don’t allow any form of protest, or contact with the players, coaches or other fans.

“The laws don’t allow any protest banners, on pain of more legal action. That’s what the stadium has become and we’re being gagged. That’s why we continue to fight on the fronts we can still fight on.

“They are ridiculing the name and the history of Milan, we can’t put up with this rubbish anymore.

“It’s not just limited to the Curva though, every Milan fan has now understood what they’re doing, and this is just the latest in a series of events which have opened the eyes of even the last bastions of those defending the indefensible.

“Get rid of Galliani or sell Milan!”
:lol: :lol: this is the best thing i've read in a while. I hope Silvio and Galliani never leave them
 

Zacheryah

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lol me. I wasn't reading anything Bologna related either.

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You did place Verratti as regista. You placed him in the center of a 3-man mid (DDR-Verratti-Marchisio). That's not the Pogba role lol.

Pirlo was tried at first like many other players. Pirlo was poor as expected and hasn't been called up since. So, I'm not sure why you think Pirlo is poised to start at Euro.

The forwards selection is poor but still isn't that poor where Berardi should start. You're overrating Berardi like many if you think he should.
No, Zaza has been poor with Italy. He's a good 4th-choice striker for Juve but isn't a int'l level player. Even Immobile was slightly better than Zaza. Neither should be part of the team.

Perin, like Marchisio, is injured.



Can't make that Italy-specific rule because EU won't let you.
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are both 3 cm midfields. i'd see 2 covering players and 1 creative central one beeing Verratti. I know Pogba is the LCM, but i'm just talking about his freedom to move on the field

I'm not overrating Berardi man. You must have missed me in certain threads cause i dont think we should buy him.

Formation i listed was the default one if players are fit. Conte has some work to do. I'd probably replace claudio with Tiago Motta. Probably Sturaro if DDR is as bad as you say, and i simply dont see another quality italian CM. Sturaro is great at the big games (save bayern, but according to his agent, he wasent fit)

I'd like to know, what frontline would you pick ? I'm simply putting Berardi cause the italian forwards are that bad. Not sure who's better aside El Sharaawy.


Didnt knew about EU ruling, is it maximum 2 non eu ?

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Pogba-Pjanic-Marchisio/Khedira
That is incredibly shitty.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Napoli :lol:

ADL :lol:


Roma selling Pjanic to bayern? Man, Roma are going to be weak next year.
They missed their chance of building a proper team. They had a young core of talented players that did not mind staying for a few years in Roma. They also had money to spend on the market (Dzeko :lol:). Despite all that they are still at the same level they were at in Garcia's first season if not worse. Even 4th placed Napoli who had to change coaches became better than they are. Now its transition time again as Radja and Pjanic will probably leave (their most 2 important players).

Napoli will sell Higuain too and they will have to create a new attack when every decent player will be super expensive. The next 3 scudettos should be in our pocket and the gap should only widen.
 
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Selling Higuain will hurt them no doubt but that will give Gabbiadini his chance to be a starter there, and I think Gabbiadini is pretty good actually. He has been impressive for them despite the very limited playing time he has gotten there.

They can use the money from Higuain's sale to strengthen the rest of their team.
 

pavluska

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I'm not putting verratti as a regista. i'm putting him somewhat in a similar role as pogba.
----cm
cm---cm
and

cm----cm
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are both 3 cm midfields. i'd see 2 covering players and 1 creative central one beeing Verratti. I know Pogba is the LCM, but i'm just talking about his freedom to move on the field
One of the 6 CM's is what you call an AM.

Pogba bombs forward as an attacking CM/mezzala. Since when does a player playing in the pivot position bomb forward like that? A creative CM playing in the middle of 3 mids is what you call a regista.

I'm not overrating Berardi man. You must have missed me in certain threads cause i dont think we should buy him.
Berardi isn't good enough for Italy and obviously isn't good enough to start for Juve (unlike what some think), but he's impressive for his age, and we should secure his potential. You don't think we should even buy Berardi, but you think he should start for Italy, that too in a front two with another SS, who's also inclined to show to the wing. Odd.

Formation i listed was the default one if players are fit. Conte has some work to do. I'd probably replace claudio with Tiago Motta. Probably Sturaro if DDR is as bad as you say, and i simply dont see another quality italian CM. Sturaro is great at the big games (save bayern, but according to his agent, he wasent fit)

I'd like to know, what frontline would you pick ? I'm simply putting Berardi cause the italian forwards are that bad. Not sure who's better aside El Sharaawy.
Sturaro...oh lawd. Parolo should be the other B2B if you want a 3-man mid. But it's best for Italy to line up in a 343.

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Florenzi Verratti T.Motta Darmian
Candreva Gabbiadini ElSha/Insigne

Didnt knew about EU ruling, is it maximum 2 non eu ?
European Union trade/labor laws didn't allow Tavecchio to make it Italy-specific.

Tavecchio did well circumventing around that with a mixture of HG and non-EU rules.

The non-EU rules are:
- Non-EU players who haven't had 3+ years of pro contract can't be signed now (rules out signing very young or useless, cheap players from South America and Africa which is probably the main problem)
- Something about not being able to sign youth players as EU unless they've had 4+ years of residency in Italy
 

Hust

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They missed their chance of building a proper team. They had a young core of talented players that did not mind staying for a few years in Roma. They also had money to spend on the market (Dzeko :lol:). Despite all that they are still at the same level they were at in Garcia's first season if not worse. Even 4th placed Napoli who had to change coaches became better than they are. Now its transition time again as Radja and Pjanic will probably leave (their most 2 important players).

Napoli will sell Higuain too and they will have to create a new attack when every decent player will be super expensive. The next 3 scudettos should be in our pocket and the gap should only widen.
Don't we pay off our stadium in the next couple years as well?

Smaller clubs love us, that's the problem with Napoli, Roma and the Milan's...we deal a lot with younger players and let them grow in these teams not to mention when we do buy their gems we also send a pocket-full of kiddos their way as well (@Albertmare). We almost always do our shopping in Italy for players while everyone else is out trying shopping in the EU or south america.

Roma will be an absolute joke next year because they will still try to play Totti if he stays at 40 years old and the one trick pony Mohamed "Krasic" Salah won't take them very far. LOL @ Napoli without Higuain.

This was their year to knock us off the podium. FAIL
 

Zacheryah

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One of the 6 CM's is what you call an AM.

Pogba bombs forward as an attacking CM/mezzala. Since when does a player playing in the pivot position bomb forward like that? A creative CM playing in the middle of 3 mids is what you call a regista.



Berardi isn't good enough for Italy and obviously isn't good enough to start for Juve (unlike what some think), but he's impressive for his age, and we should secure his potential. You don't think we should even buy, but you think he should start for Italy, that too in a front two with another SS, who's also inclined to show to the wing. Odd.



Sturaro...oh lawd. Parolo should be the other B2B if you want a 3-man mid. But it's best for Italy to line up in a 343.

Buffon
Barzagli Bonucci Chiellini
Florenzi Verratti T.Motta Darmian
Candreva Gabbiadini ElSha/Insigne



European Union trade/labor laws didn't allow Tavecchio to make it Italy-specific.

Tavecchio did well circumventing around that with a mixture of HG and non-EU rules.

The non-EU rules are:
- Non-EU players who haven't had 3+ years of pro contract can't be signed now (rules out signing very young or useless, cheap players from South America and Africa which is probably the main problem)
- Something about not being able to sign youth players as EU unless they've had 4+ years of residency in Italy
I disagree about the midfield, but understand what your viewpoint is :tup:

Italy is a shitty team to balance. Insigne, gabbiadini...meh.
I put those two cause i wanted SES and 'something else' but we dont even have 1 halfdecent CF. Small runners yea. Tought of berardi as hes versatily but both indeed drift to the flank. If only balol stopped beeing an.insane retard...

Thats probably the best formation but how poor quality has the azzurri become, going forward...

Thanks for the EU thing. Is there space to make it stricter ? Hg for example ?
 

Hust

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I've been seeing the word Mezzala a lot lately. All I think about when I see it is what I do when I play with my Panucci.
 
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