[ITA] Serie A 2015/2016 (51 Viewers)

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Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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:lol:

Immobile was Serie A top scorer too, playing for a club that actually qualified for Europa due to all his goals, unlike Icardi's Inter. Look how he turned out.

You have no idea how he'd do at a major club. Neither do I. But it's equally likely he flops badly just like Immobile
No it isn't. The likelihood that a player who topped the goal scoring charts to completely flop a season after is not 50%. If past performances are any indicator of future performances then the probability has to be higher than 50%. Thats why a young player who has regularly performed at lower teams is a hotter prospect than a player who has not.


Also your two claims are incompatible. Saying that he is no better than Immobile is a completely different claim than saying he might turn out to be like Immobile. The first claim means that every top scorer at a small club is no better than Immobile. The second claim is that 50% of top scorers will be like Immobile (complete flops).
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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The point is, and Catch22 gets this, is that Icardi is a classical striker that has very little to his game outside of scoring, and requires a team that works towards creating chances almost exclusively for him. Top teams are rarely like that today and having watched Icardi play often I don't see him being a star player for a top side ever. He doesn't have the varied skillset required and is too one-dimensional. Could I be wrong? Sure. However, I don't think I will be wrong.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Trezeguet or Inzaghi nowdays in Juve would score as much as Messi or Ronaldo. Given all the chances we have to score but fail to put toward the net!
Trezeguet could touch 2 balls in 90mins but still score twice. Nowdays we need 20chances to score once or at best twice. Would take Inzaghi or Trezeguet anytime anyday above "modern strikers". They'd blow Serie A away. Just look at the 38yrs old Luca Toni last year.
What an absolutely baseless claim. It's one thing to say they'd score more, because the Serie A is not as strong as it was when they played in it, but to claim they'd score double the amount of goals is silly. I see this kind of argument too many times to be honest; for example, a friend of mine who was very much like yourself, a chest pounding Serie A fan; claimed that Shevchenko would score at least 40 league goals in the EPL when he moved to Chelsea, because at the time he was banging them in for fun in the toughest league in the world, we all know how that went.
 

Martin

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What an absolutely baseless claim. It's one thing to say they'd score more, because the Serie A is not as strong as it was when they played in it, but to claim they'd score double the amount of goals is silly. I see this kind of argument too many times to be honest; for example, a friend of mine who was very much like yourself, a chest pounding Serie A fan; claimed that Shevchenko would score at least 40 league goals in the EPL when he moved to Chelsea, because at the time he was banging them in for fun in the toughest league in the world, we all know how that went.
it's an interesting pass time to debate about what would or would not have happened. no debate is more fun than one where there is no possibility of objective truth
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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What an absolutely baseless claim. It's one thing to say they'd score more, because the Serie A is not as strong as it was when they played in it, but to claim they'd score double the amount of goals is silly. I see this kind of argument too many times to be honest; for example, a friend of mine who was very much like yourself, a chest pounding Serie A fan; claimed that Shevchenko would score at least 40 league goals in the EPL when he moved to Chelsea, because at the time he was banging them in for fun in the toughest league in the world, we all know how that went.
Just saying that la Liga is a wonderland for some kind of strikers. I doubt Messi would score as much as he do elsewhere.
Ronaldo at least proved himself 2 leagues but both of them are ants for their national team.
In a era where there are only 2 strong teams (Spain and Germany) they still fail to make the difference.
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Nice start to the weekend. Carpi 2-1 Torino. Let the rest tumble. Time to start climbing up the table.
Exactly!
And Verona's draw also good result.
Hopefully Inter,Napoli and maybe Roma drop some points as well today.

Forza Juve!!

we will also lose points on carpi like against frosinone :cry:
We already did vs Frosinone.
enough fuck ups,time to climb that table up.where we belong.
First place.
 
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