[ITA] Serie A 2013/2014 (43 Viewers)

[IrishZebra]

It's ridiculous for any player.

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[Bianconero_Aus]

It's ridiculous for any player.

This.

More than happy with what our club is paying it's players. Fuck these disgustingly high amounts paid by the oil and EPL clubs.

 

[j0ker]

I believe this one is accurate. @frzl posted it few days ago.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dDJ4U05xbHdRYzcwOGlJaFVudmMtNmc&rm=full#gid=5

What is "ammortamento"?

 

[Vlad]

What is "ammortamento"?

Amortization. It's payed transfer fee spread equally over duration of contract. Example: Juve payed around 11,5m for Vidal with duration of contract for 5 years. 11,5/5=2,3m amortization

 

[j0ker]

Amortization. It's payed transfer fee spread equally over duration of contract. Example: Juve payed around 11,5m for Vidal with duration of contract for 5 years. 11,5/5=2,3m amortization

Thanks, though some numbers do not add up but I've no idea how these things work out.

 

[Vlad]

Thanks, though some numbers do not add up but I've no idea how these things work out.

Numbers that don't add up are renewals and they're bit more complicated. Buffon for example 55m fee in 2001, 5 years of contract till 2006= 11m per year amortization. Buffon signed new contract in 2004, so his value till that point was 55m-33m (amortization 3 years X 11m)=22m. Then you spread 22m over the duration of the next contract and so on...

 

[Gerd]

Thanks, though some numbers do not add up but I've no idea how these things work out.

Pratically if you buy a player for 20 mil and give him a 5 year contract , in theory with every passing year his value drops by 20/5=4 mil . So in the second year his value drops to 16 , third year 12 , foruth year 8 , fifth year 4 and after the fifth his value goes to 0 (contract expires)

It is a very important data to take in account when selling players because it decides the value with which you need to sell a player to be equal in the account books . For example if we sold the 20 mil player after a year for 16 mil , that would be a 0 difference , if we sold him for 20 that would be a plus of 4 mil , everything lower than 16 mil would be a minus . For more info ask Marotta , he is a master in these things

 

[Cuti]

according to that document, we had to pay Arsenal 500,000 euros for not taking up the option on Bendtner haha

 

[Red]

I believe this one is accurate. @frzl posted it few days ago.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dDJ4U05xbHdRYzcwOGlJaFVudmMtNmc&rm=full#gid=5

What makes you think it's accurate?

Every chance a fair chunk of it has been based on Gazzetta's guesswork on salaries, too.

 

[JuveJay]

It has transfermarkt and wikipedia symbols on there, has to be legit.

 

[Vlad]

What makes you think it's accurate?

Every chance a fair chunk of it has been based on Gazzetta's guesswork on salaries, too.

It looks accurate. Certain numbers add up. It's not based on Gazzeta's.

 

[Red]

It looks accurate. Certain numbers add up. It's not based on Gazzeta's.

No, it's based on Wikipedia and Transfermakt, who probably base their figures on Gazzetta.

 

[Vlad]

No, it's based on Wikipedia and Transfermakt, who probably base their figures on Gazzetta.

No it's not. Player salaries are quite different in Gazzeta. Llorente for instance.

 

[Red]

Yeah, they are going with the 4.5m that was rumoured at the time of Llorente signing.

I thought that was quite an interesting one and I imagine Gazzetta have some basis for saying he's earning 1m less than was widely rumoured.

 

[Vlad]

Yeah, they are going with the 4.5m that was rumoured at the time of Llorente signing.

I thought that was quite an interesting one and I imagine Gazzetta have some basis for saying he's earning 1m less than was widely rumoured.

There are other examples like Chiellini but we'll see. Gazzeta and economical related issues don't go together. They can't ffs look at FR to confirm numbers they publish.

 

[j0ker]

Numbers that don't add up are renewals and they're bit more complicated. Buffon for example 55m fee in 2001, 5 years of contract till 2006= 11m per year amortization. Buffon signed new contract in 2004, so his value till that point was 55m-33m (amortization 3 years X 11m)=22m. Then you spread 22m over the duration of the next contract and so on...

Pratically if you buy a player for 20 mil and give him a 5 year contract , in theory with every passing year his value drops by 20/5=4 mil . So in the second year his value drops to 16 , third year 12 , foruth year 8 , fifth year 4 and after the fifth his value goes to 0 (contract expires)

It is a very important data to take in account when selling players because it decides the value with which you need to sell a player to be equal in the account books . For example if we sold the 20 mil player after a year for 16 mil , that would be a 0 difference , if we sold him for 20 that would be a plus of 4 mil , everything lower than 16 mil would be a minus .For more info ask Marotta , he is a master in these things

 

[oldlady87]

De Sciglio out for at least 2 months.

 

[Red]

And Abate's going to be out for a bit.

Zaccardo's chance to shine?

 

[IrishZebra]

Amortization is such a load of shite for assets that don't have accepted or fixed values.

 

[Vlad]

Amortization is such a load of shite for assets that don't have accepted or fixed values.

But what's the alternative?