[ITA] Serie A 2012/2013 (29 Viewers)

[Juliano13]

He didnt touch the ball, or blocked the defender, so no, he didnt interfere

Dude do you even read your comments before you post? He scored the goal! He clearly gained an advantage by being offside.

 

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[Zacheryah]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offside_(association_football)

then look for "Gaining an advantage by being in an offside position"

then feel ashamed for not knowing basic rules of football

 

[Hist]

Destro is over rated. Welbeck and Sturridge show the same promise if not more and that doesnt say much.

 

[Juliano13]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offside_(association_football)

then look for "Gaining an advantage by being in an offside position"

then feel ashamed for not knowing basic rules of football

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2012_e.pdf
show me here plz.

 

[ALC]

In the sense that just because the linesman was jacking off instead of looking doesn't mean the trap didn't work.

you're only called offside if someone passes to you. how do you not know this?

Destro is over rated. Welbeck and Sturridge show the same promise if not more and that doesnt say much.

agreed.

 

[Red]

You can argue whether that goal should be within the rules or not, but the officials undoubtedly made the right call given the current interpretation of the rule.

I think think the offside rule is currently too liberal and weighted too far in favour of the attacking side, though.

I'd have no problem with goals such as Fiorentina's one tonight not being allowed.

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Destro is over rated. Welbeck and Sturridge show the same promise if not more and that doesnt say much.

Welbeck doesn't have a first touch.

Sturridge is an idiot.

Destro will end up a far better player than either of them.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Oh, that's right. The guy that scored the goal clearly didn't interfere with the play.

Do you know anything about passive offside?

 

[Juliano13]

you're only called offside if someone passes to you. how do you not know this?

That is clearly not true.

 

[ALC]

You can argue whether that goal should be within the rules or not, but the officials undoubtedly made the right call given the current interpretation of the rule.

I think think the offside rule is currently too liberal and weighted too far in favour of the attacking side.

I'd have no problem with goals such as Fiorentina's one tonight not being allowed.

nah, seems fair to me. removing that rule would have teams pull shit like Roma did all the time.

 

[Juliano13]

So you're all saying he didn't gain an advantage by being in an offisde position even though that allowed him to score the goal?

 

[ALC]

That is clearly not true.

it is, sometimes the refs won't call offside unless you touch the ball first.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

So you're all saying he didn't gain an advantage by being in an offisde position even though that allowed him to score the goal?

Ye, we do, it's a fucking PASSIVE OFFSIDE, deal with it

 

[Juliano13]

Ok fine then show me where this is written in the rules of the game. Then I'll agree that the rules are totally retarded and the goal is legit.

 

[Red]

nah, seems fair to me. removing that rule would have teams pull shit like Roma did all the time.

Were teams all doing that constantly ten or fifteen years ago?

I'm not going for taking things back to the seventies where it was weighted to much in favour of the defenders.

If Rodriguez had scored himself, rather than squaring it to Rancaglia, I'd allow the goal.

I don't like that someone can be offside and then become onside again in a way that give the defence absolutely no chance of recovering, as was the case with Roncaglia's goal tonight.

 

[Zacheryah]

Ye, we do, it's a fucking PASSIVE OFFSIDE, deal with it

thanks , i was wondering how its called in english

in dutch its "positie buitenspell", forgot it was passive offside

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2012_e.pdf
show me here plz.

The refferee will NEVER call for offside when you are in a passive offside position, he'll only call offside when the ball is passed to you.



Its the exact same for cards. if the referee would follow the book, no game ends without 4 red cards trough second yellow

 

[Salvatore]

Man, seriously, you use the fifa rulebook to back an argument

 

[Red]

So you're all saying he didn't gain an advantage by being in an offisde position even though that allowed him to score the goal?

It's not about what is precisely said in the rules.

It's the interpretation that counts.

Currently, the intepretation of the rule means that Fiorentina's goal was perfectly legal.

 

[Juliano13]

I don't like that someone can be offside and then become onside again in a way that give the defence absolutely no chance of recovering, as was the case with Roncaglia's goal tonight.

That's exactly what I mean. Can you please show me where in the rules it says that this cannot be interpreted as gaining an advantage by being offside.

 

[Red]

That's exactly what I mean. Can you please show me where in the rules it says that this cannot be interpreted as gaining an advantage by being offside.

It's not about what is precisely said in the rules.

It's the interpretation that counts.

Currently, the intepretation of the rule means that Fiorentina's goal was perfectly legal.

The current interpretation was brought in because FIFA wanted more goals and to encourage more attacking play.

 

[Salvatore]

And I'm fairly sure officials are supposed to break the play up into phases, so that initial free kick would be the first phase and the pass from Pasqual (?) would be the second phase.