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Well, Milan is just a reason for a good laugh right now.
There are 2 teams which bother me: Napoli and Inter.
Napoli has amazing depth upfront... Edu Vargas scored 3 today. I know him from South American football, his Chilean team for a year was the best team in the continent. I've seen a lot of games from him. And I tell you... this guy was a fucking BEAST. South American games in general are not easy. Very small pitches, hostile atmosphere, poor lawn, very violent players, crazy running around. And this kid really stood out. Very quickly, strong, intelligent, very good finisher. Perfect as an offensive right winger or SS. I really wanted this guy at Juve, before Napoli got him for 11M. He's worth every penny. Actually he will prbably be better in Lavezzi in little time.
Inisigne obviously has insane talent. Pandev is a good player. Cavani is world class. I mean... possibly any of these 4 would step up into our starting team immediately.
About Inter, they have a lot of young talented players in their squad. I've seen a few of them playing... they won the NextGen last year, the most important competition for youth. Coutinho, Livaja, Duncan, M'baye have so much potential. Samuele Longo also has great potential, this kid can be next Italian great CF. Inter has depth and I think they can fight for the scudetto, they are not as bad as people say.
Juve is in a great path. I just wish the club can actually trust the youngsters and strengthen the attack properly.
There are 2 teams which bother me: Napoli and Inter.
Napoli has amazing depth upfront... Edu Vargas scored 3 today. I know him from South American football, his Chilean team for a year was the best team in the continent. I've seen a lot of games from him. And I tell you... this guy was a fucking BEAST. South American games in general are not easy. Very small pitches, hostile atmosphere, poor lawn, very violent players, crazy running around. And this kid really stood out. Very quickly, strong, intelligent, very good finisher. Perfect as an offensive right winger or SS. I really wanted this guy at Juve, before Napoli got him for 11M. He's worth every penny. Actually he will prbably be better in Lavezzi in little time.
Inisigne obviously has insane talent. Pandev is a good player. Cavani is world class. I mean... possibly any of these 4 would step up into our starting team immediately.
About Inter, they have a lot of young talented players in their squad. I've seen a few of them playing... they won the NextGen last year, the most important competition for youth. Coutinho, Livaja, Duncan, M'baye have so much potential. Samuele Longo also has great potential, this kid can be next Italian great CF. Inter has depth and I think they can fight for the scudetto, they are not as bad as people say.
Juve is in a great path. I just wish the club can actually trust the youngsters and strengthen the attack properly.
Regarding youth... who has the best youth set up in Italy? I reckon it's between Juve or Inter, judging by results. We've won Viareggio thrice since 2008. Inter twice. Inter also won the NextGen last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yago_Del_Piero What the fuck? We should sign this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yago_Del_Piero What the fuck? We should sign this guy.
Actually it's Roma and Inter. Juve comes right after them, I guess. But we are growing.
Roma always has the best Italian youngsters due to their geographic position (central Italy, only big club in that part of the country - Lazio is rather weak, while Juve has to compete with Milan and Inter for Italian youngster up north). They won the youngster Coppa Italia against us and finished the Primavera championship unbeaten in more than 30 games in group stage.
Inter has a shitload of youngsters with a lot of potentital. Brazilians Yago Del Piero and another kid (I forgot the name), Tassi, etc. They won Primavera championship and NextGen.
Roma always has the best Italian youngsters due to their geographic position (central Italy, only big club in that part of the country - Lazio is rather weak, while Juve has to compete with Milan and Inter for Italian youngster up north). They won the youngster Coppa Italia against us and finished the Primavera championship unbeaten in more than 30 games in group stage.
Inter has a shitload of youngsters with a lot of potentital. Brazilians Yago Del Piero and another kid (I forgot the name), Tassi, etc. They won Primavera championship and NextGen.
How do Brazilian teams tend to develop promising youngsters from good youth players to established first team players?
Is it just a willingness to throw them into the first team and give them playing time when they are 17,18,19?
Do many go out on loan to gain experience?
Is there any sort or link between youth football and senior football i.e. a reserve league (something that I think is lacking in Italy and is why loans are more necessary for young players in Italy than in other countries)?
Is it just a willingness to throw them into the first team and give them playing time when they are 17,18,19?
Do many go out on loan to gain experience?
Is there any sort or link between youth football and senior football i.e. a reserve league (something that I think is lacking in Italy and is why loans are more necessary for young players in Italy than in other countries)?
That's an interesting question.
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
That's an interesting question.
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
That's an interesting question.
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
The general picture in the 90s, with football globalization, was: clubs were piss poor in Brazil, no structure, so they had to produce players to sell in large scale. That's why there's always been great investment in youth. Also, with so many players leaving, there was a lot of room for youngsters who did well in youth.
With that space, there wasn't the need to have a B side or even to loan out all the kids. Traditionally, if the kid is really good, u let him practice with professionals for a while and inserts him little by little in non important games. This is considered the best way to develop a youngster here. Only the average ones are loaned out to gather experience. Or the ones who don't fit in well in the professional squad. But if the kid shows potential, you actually trust him and give him a bigger role, little by little. Loaning out is almost a plan B, if the kid doesn't do well as a professional, or if you are dealing with average material.
Here, almost all big clubs have their squad composed of 1/4 or 1/3 of players who came from youth rankings. Even if their job is basically to fill in the squad and play occasionaly. If the kid is used to deal with the pressure of playing in a big club from the beginning, even if playing a small part, this is considered a better experience than being an important player for a small club.
However, many kids can be thrown at the fire if the team is doing really bad and they have to step in and solve out the problem. But the good ones will never complain about lack of opportunities.
PS: it was the need to sell that actually screwed Brazilian football. In the 90s and 2000s, clubs actually selected youngsters to play in their youth ranks according to what was needed in Europe: strong and athletic players, leaving skillful small players aside. That's why the quality over here dropped a lot. Now it's starting to get better again, as Europe is now prioritizing skill instead of size, even in highly competitive leagues as Serie A. Also, now there's less space for youngsters, because clubs have money and are structured. Brazilian league developed a lot with the country's economic growth and clubs are able to keep their top players. Anyway, youngsters still have a lot of space in here and clubs invest a lot on them. And actually trust them. It's a cultural matter.
For instance, kids as Neymar, Oscar, Lucas, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Kaka, etc, were NEVER loaned. This wasn't even considered. If you have a gem or a very promising player, you keep him and let him learn with the best. And more importantly, you give him a bigger role as he plays well.
I think in Italy they just don't trust youngsters enough. So they lack transition, as a B side. Actually, this is changing. Due to hard times, clubs are obliged to invest in youth because it's cheaper. I think Italy will start (actually has already started) producing more and more youngsters. And actually in a few years I believe there will be B sides.
Thanks for asking
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