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Dominic

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Greatest player I've ever witnessed.

And for me Del Piero is second only to him, with Totti on par.
It's a shame Totti was converted to forward. Furthermore if Totti had reached full-potential, possibly at another team, I think he could've exceeded Zidane. He certainly had the potential. Totti's one-touch long balls, incomparable..
 

Wings

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It's a shame Totti was converted to forward. Furthermore if Totti had reached full-potential, possibly at another team, I think he could've exceeded Zidane. He certainly had the potential. Totti's one-touch long balls, incomparable..
Blasphemy! ;P Totti paid the ultimate price for being loyal to a shifty team.
 

Fred

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It's a shame Totti was converted to forward. Furthermore if Totti had reached full-potential, possibly at another team, I think he could've exceeded Zidane. He certainly had the potential. Totti's one-touch long balls, incomparable..
I jizz in my pants whenever he does that, what a fucking genius.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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Totti made Roma the club it is today. Juve made Delpiero the player he is.
Del piero would have excelled in any club. Totti would have probably done the same. The only conclusion you can plausibly draw, is that Del piero helped Juve a lot more than Totti helped Roma.

Placing Totti always above the club really was detrimental to Roma being a top club. In his best and worst of times, he was always more important than the team. So, if anything, Totti is a huge reason why Roma was never able to exceed mediocrity. In contrast, Del piero's humble attitude and patience allowed Juve to develop into a better team over the years.
 

Hist

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Juve always was a great club with great players with Del Piero being one of such great players. The club's success and worldwide popularity precedes Del Piero and it is only natural that a player of Dp's caliber would wear the Juve jersey.

Roma on the other hand is a club with a fan base because of Totti. He takes this team to a level higher than where they belong. He is their first and last player at this level.


I never argued that Totti is better than Del Piero. I am only saying that Totti to Roma is more than DP to us because Roma is a small club next to us.

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Del piero would have excelled in any club. Totti would have probably done the same. The only conclusion you can plausibly draw, is that Del piero helped Juve a lot more than Totti helped Roma.

Placing Totti always above the club really was detrimental to Roma being a top club. In his best and worst of times, he was always more important than the team. So, if anything, Totti is a huge reason why Roma was never able to exceed mediocrity. In contrast, Del piero's humble attitude and patience allowed Juve to develop into a better team over the years.
He is why we even think of them as a top club. He gives them the edge over lazio.
 
Jun 13, 2007
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Juve always was a great club with great players with Del Piero being one of such great players. The club's success and worldwide popularity precedes Del Piero and it is only natural that a player of Dp's caliber would wear the Juve jersey.

Roma on the other hand is a club with a fan base because of Totti. He takes this team to a level higher than where they belong. He is their first and last player at this level.


I never argued that Totti is better than Del Piero. I am only saying that Totti to Roma is more than DP to us because Roma is a small club next to us.
For a certain period of time, you would be right. But how many falling outs have Roma had with players and coaches because of Totti over the years? Yes, he got many fans to support Roma in the beginning when he was great, but you need to weigh that against how much he's hurt Roma's development over the years too.

You do have a valid point, someone like Di Natale for example is def more important to Udinese than Del piero is to Juve. But with Totti, it gets a little tricky.

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He is why we even think of them as a top club. He gives them the edge over lazio.
Lazio is easily a better club than Roma now.
 

Fred

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Del piero would have excelled in any club. Totti would have probably done the same. The only conclusion you can plausibly draw, is that Del piero helped Juve a lot more than Totti helped Roma.

Placing Totti always above the club really was detrimental to Roma being a top club. In his best and worst of times, he was always more important than the team. So, if anything, Totti is a huge reason why Roma was never able to exceed mediocrity. In contrast, Del piero's humble attitude and patience allowed Juve to develop into a better team over the years.
I'd contest that to be honest.

But then again, one could also say that Di Natale is a lot more important to Udinese than Totti is to Roma or DP was to Juve. Point is, it says more sometimes about the club than it does about the individual player.
 
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I'd contest that to be honest.

But then again, one could also say that Di Natale is a lot more important to Udinese than Totti is to Roma or DP was to Juve. Point is, it says more sometimes about the club than it does about the individual player.
True, it's more about how big the club is than anything else, but I'd factor in other things as well. What I am saying is that although Totti has carried Roma on his shoulders a lot during his career; we shouldn't forget how much trouble he caused. For me, at least, it's not just about having talent, but it's a lot more about having class and putting the club before yourself. Totti has never sacrificed himself for the team. That has definitely stunted Roma from getting stronger. What Del piero was to Juve, Raul to Real Madrid, Maldini to Milan, Henry was to Arsenal is more than Totti was to Roma.
 
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