[ITA] Serie A 2011/2012 (98 Viewers)

[Delle Alpi]

Thiago Silva is a top defender.

I agree. People tend to be biased toward their players. Thiago would be an automatic starter on Juve, he is smarter than Chiellini

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Top is top. World class is world class.

TS is top. Chiellini is WC, Cannavaro was WC/Legendary, Nesta is WC/Legendary

Silva is WC IMO.

 

[Marty]

Thiago Silva is one of the best CB's in in the world

 

[Dostoevsky]

Thiago Silva is one of the best CB's in in the world

Yep, no doubt about it IMO. He was only meh in the first season but later on he became a beast and he's surely one of the best out there. And IMO better than Chiellini for sure.

 

[Salvatore]

Is there really doubt over the quality of Milan ffs?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Is there really doubt over the quality of Milan ffs?

I do think that their fullbacks are shit and that their midfield is quite average but on a lucky streak.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

If Astori, Bonucci, Ranocchia will play in team like Milan alongside with Nesta for 3 seasons, they will be one of the best too. (bonera its exception to the rules )

 

[Alen]

Milan can win matches without Ibra. Every team can win 3-4 matches without its best player. The difference can be seen if that particular player is out for a while, like 10-20 matches in a row.
Milan would be where they are now without every single player in their ranks, but not without Ibrahimovic. This year he's literally the difference between winning the scudetto and not making the CL. That is too obvious and it's silly to try to deny it.

P.S: A non-injury plagued Milan, with Cassano, Boateng, Pato, Nesta etc healthy throughout the season, might win a scudetto even without Ibra.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Yep, no doubt about it IMO. He was only meh in the first season but later on he became a beast and he's surely one of the best out there. And IMO better than Chiellini for sure.

 

[ALC]

Cassano was great for them at the beginning of the season. When is he supposed to come back?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Well you can do that three more times but he still is.

 

[acmilan]

Milan can win matches without Ibra. Every team can win 3-4 matches without its best player. The difference can be seen if that particular player is out for a while, like 10-20 matches in a row.
Milan would be where they are now without every single player in their ranks, but not without Ibrahimovic. This year he's literally the difference between winning the scudetto and not making the CL. That is too obvious and it's silly to try to deny it.

P.S: A non-injury plagued Milan, with Cassano, Boateng, Pato, Nesta etc healthy throughout the season, might win a scudetto even without Ibra.

and where would Juve be without Pirlo?

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Cassano was great for them at the beginning of the season. When is he supposed to come back?

possibly in 3-4 weeks ... will hardly be in top shape, obviously

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If Astori, Bonucci, Ranocchia will play in team like Milan alongside with Nesta for 3 seasons, they will be one of the best too. (bonera its exception to the rules )

it's posts like this one that convince me more and more that a forum is in many ways an online village

 

[Alen]

and where would Juve be without Pirlo?

Far behind.
My point is that even WITH Pirlo, but with many injuries, Juve wouldn't even be in top 3. But with Ibra and endless injuries Milan are leaders. This year it's like injuries of starters don't matter at all when you have Zlatan. He's enough for serie A.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Well you can do that three more times but he still is.

Numbers:
number of games - Chiellini 24 ; Silva 27
tackles per game - Chiellini 3 (73 total) ; Silva 1.3 (34 total)
interceptions per game - Chiellini 3.9 (94 total) ; Silva 3.4 (91 total)
fouls per game - Chiellini 1.3 (31 total) ; Silva 0.7 (20 total)
clearances per game - Chiellini 6 (145 total) ; Silva 6.9 (187 total)
dribbled by other players - Chiellini 0.5 (12) ; Silva 0.2 (6)
blocked shots per game - Chiellini 0.4 (10) ; Silva 0.7 (18)
overall rating - Chiellini 7.52; Silva 7.37

 

[acmilan]

Far behind.
My point is that even WITH Pirlo, but with many injuries, Juve wouldn't even be in top 3. But with Ibra and endless injuries Milan are leaders. This year it's like injuries of starters don't matter at all when you have Zlatan. He's enough for serie A.

there is no denying how important a player Ibra is for Milan, in Serie A at least, but considering the ridiculous number of injuries - I don't remember the last time we had less than 12 players missing at once - which has driven the team to the point of not really having a starting 11, I have to give credit to the other players, as well ... and Allegri too even if today's stupefying decision to start an injured TS only for him to aggravate his injury makes it really diff not to call him an idiot.

anyways, Real M wouldn't be the same team w/o CR, nor would Barca be the team they are now w/o Messi or better yet, Xavi ... all in all, this talk of if we had this and they didn't have that is pointless, at best.

 

[Salvatore]

I do think that their fullbacks are shit and that their midfield is quite average but on a lucky streak.

If they invest on quality in midfield and left back, I think they're in a very good position without this number of injury problems. Abate isn't as bad as you say

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

there is no denying how important a player Ibra is for Milan, in Serie A at least, but considering the ridiculous number of injuries - I don't remember the last time we had less than 12 players missing at once - which has driven the team to the point of not really having a starting 11, I have to give credit to the other players, as well ... and Allegri too even if today's stupefying decision to start an injured TS only for him to aggravate his injury makes it really diff not to call him an idiot.

anyways, Real M wouldn't be the same team w/o CR, nor would Barca be the team they are now w/o Messi or better yet, Xavi ... all in all, this talk of if we had this and they didn't have that is pointless, at best.

fuck milan

 

[Marty]

it's posts like this one that convince me more and more that a forum is in many ways an online village

This forum has many special villagers

 

[acmilan]

Numbers:
number of games - Chiellini 24 ; Silva 27
tackles per game - Chiellini 3 (73 total) ; Silva 1.3 (34 total)
interceptions per game - Chiellini 3.9 (94 total) ; Silva 3.4 (91 total)
fouls per game - Chiellini 1.3 (31 total) ; Silva 0.7 (20 total)
clearances per game - Chiellini 6 (145 total) ; Silva 6.9 (187 total)
dribbled by other players - Chiellini 0.5 (12) ; Silva 0.2 (6)
blocked shots per game - Chiellini 0.4 (10) ; Silva 0.7 (18)
overall rating - Chiellini 7.52; Silva 7.37

you've made you point well - Chiellini is the best CB to have played the game, TS is average ... you can relax now

it's curious, however, how in virtually all the parts of the game that require better positioning i.e. better reading of the game, TS tops Chiellini

 

[Alen]

there is no denying how important a player Ibra is for Milan, in Serie A at least, but considering the ridiculous number of injuries - I don't remember the last time we had less than 12 players missing at once - which has driven the team to the point of not really having a starting 11, I have to give credit to the other players, as well ... and Allegri too even if today's stupefying decision to start an injured TS only for him to aggravate his injury makes it really diff not to call him an idiot.

anyways, Real M wouldn't be the same team w/o CR, nor would Barca be the team they are now w/o Messi or better yet, Xavi ... all in all, this talk of if we had this and they didn't have that is pointless, at best.

Of course it's pointless to you. You didn't have to argue and fight with Rab and Hoori for the last 5 years and convince them that Zlatan is world class.