[ITA] Serie A 2011/2012 (52 Viewers)

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Flamez

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Feb 7, 2011
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You haven't watched much of MIlan obviously. MIlan's previous game vs Lazio in the Coppa was highly entertaining.
Also, I may be biased, but our game vs Barca was the funnest of all big team clashes with Barca I've seen. ;)
Their last game with Real was, by far, the best and more entertaining game of the season so far.

One question for you, Milan fans: what do you think about Allegri?
And another: who do you rate as Juventus' best players?
 

milan

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Mar 30, 2006
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I've seen plenty of Milan.

And when I say interesting, I mean that there is a proper plan in place and there is general good play.

Milan-Lazio was a rubbish game with things only happening due to really poor mistakes and Lazio having chosen to play 3-5-2 - a system they are not accustomed to.

Which game against Barca?

The one is Spain was good because Milan got their tactics right.

The one in Italy - while quite exciting - was a terrible game from Allegri. He could scarcely have a chosen a way to play that would have made a Barca victory more certain.
You could say that every game's result is happening because of mistakes from the losing team. :p It was an open game, with nice combination play and a good number of dangerous attacking moves. ;) Milan's second choice attacking line combined really well and made many slick moves / touches.

Yeah, I was talking about the return lag at San Siro. And yes, I am not a huge fan of Allegri.
BUT, I think playing an open game vs Barca was an interesting experience, and it's one of the possible ways of beating Barca.
Barca aren't used to being attacked a lot. When fast gritty teams attack them a lot, Barca encounter lots of problems. (Milan does lack the "fast component" quiet a bit though).

Besides that, Barca game was open and a pleasure to watch.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Looking at those highlights.....I really love Mirko :heart:
He had a very similar match in Napoli.
Yeah, that curled ball - the one he shot off while standing still deserved a better end than the bottom of the crossbar. One more thing, where was the Milan midfield in that game? I'm pretty sure Vidal had his best game in our shirt that day.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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All depends on whether or not the midfield is fit, but I am more confident about this tie than I was about Tottenham, everyone was saying Milan would sail through and I just knew something was up, had a very bad feeling about it and was proven correct.
It will be very difficult though. In the last decade Italian teams have struggled against English opponents and done well against Spanish opponents. It's the opposite for the English, they struggle against the Spanish.

Milan will have to be at the very top of their game if they are to go through. Their midfield will have to move around a lot more than it does in a standard Serie A game otherwise they'll get overrun by the headless EPL chooks.
 

Giova21

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Dec 20, 2011
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Their last game with Real was, by far, the best and more entertaining game of the season so far. **

One question for you, Milan fans: what do you think about Allegri?****
And another: who do you rate as Juventus' best players?******
** - Didn't see it, I've really given up on that as it just becomes a farce, it's funny in some aspects and definitely the collection of the most talented players on the planet playing against each other but yeah.

**** - Still really cannot make my mind up about him, sometimes he gets it absolutely spot on - the Lecce game subs made, the Novara game away the subs at half time again but as someone, I think Red, pointed out against bigger teams for example Barcelona at San Siro he just gives the game to opponents too much. The problem is he's now riding on a Scudetto but does have an injury crisis in his favour if things start to fuck up majorly.

***** Vidal for me is crucial, great runs links the play tracks back and Chiellini I'd bite your hand off to have at Milan, Buffon too. The rest I'm unsure about and are just well suited to the system Conte has as opposed to being absolute world-beaters but then you can accuse Milan of similar.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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** - Didn't see it, I've really given up on that as it just becomes a farce, it's funny in some aspects and definitely the collection of the most talented players on the planet playing against each other but yeah.

**** - Still really cannot make my mind up about him, sometimes he gets it absolutely spot on - the Lecce game subs made, the Novara game away the subs at half time again but as someone, I think Red, pointed out against bigger teams for example Barcelona at San Siro he just gives the game to opponents too much. The problem is he's now riding on a Scudetto but does have an injury crisis in his favour if things start to fuck up majorly.

***** Vidal for me is crucial, great runs links the play tracks back and Chiellini I'd bite your hand off to have at Milan, Buffon too. The rest I'm unsure about and are just well suited to the system Conte has as opposed to being absolute world-beaters but then you can accuse Milan of similar.
Omg you don't rate Marchisio? Many on this forum will call for your ban now! :p
 

milan

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Mar 30, 2006
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One question for you, Milan fans: what do you think about Allegri?
And another: who do you rate as Juventus' best players?
1. I like Allegri's idea of building a dynamic, physically strong teams. But Allegri has many many problems in how he implements his plans.
His #1 weakness seems to be substitutions. He tries to make game changing substitution at ridiculously late times. Also, the actual subs are often mind boggling.
... so is his choice of players in some occasions... like playing Emanuelson as a CAM in a derby was questionable at least.. then there was also a complete 30+ old midfield vs fast Tottenham...
What I liek about him, is that he gives young players a chance. Merkel, SES all improved under him. Also, he was able to bring the best out of Cassano.
He is far from a top coach yet, given the results so far, he deserves more time with Milan.

2. I have watched many Juve games this season and for me it's really difficult to single out one of your players. Your team is very solid and works as a unit.
Besides that, Buffon is a level above other keepers in Italy, and I've seen games where he's made the difference.
I've also been impressed with Pirlo. Apart from loss of pace, he is close to being back to his best at Juve. Again, seen a number of games where he was decisive.
In midfield best player for me is Marchisio though.
In attack I've been most impressed with Matri. He has been quiet clinical and knows how to position himelf and convert chances.
 
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