[ITA] Serie A 2011/2012 (54 Viewers)

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Azzurri7

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As I said earlier, I'd love to see how these sort of players would handle Serie A. I reckon the lack of space would kill them, well Ronaldo at least.
Well Messi has played 4x against Italian teams, scored 1goal from penalty(undeserved one against Milan). The 4x he has featured in he suffered and didn't impress.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Oh I see its lets massively overrate Serie A session again.
I actually agree with Rab and I don't think that the lesser serie A teams are any better than the lesser La Liga teams.
It's the league and country mentality in Italy that will prevent CR and Messi from scoring more. Not the bigger quality of teams like Catania, Lecce, Parma, Novara etc.
I can easily imagine coaches in Italy putting 3 players if needed on Messi and CR, and playing with 10 men in the box all match long. In Spain they simply don't do that.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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They wont score as much, because Serie A is tactically schooled in a way La Liga minnows arent, more clogged space and reading and adapting to your opponents way more (Mourinho was super frustrated at this challenge, heh).

But its still overrating Serie A when people keep harping on how the best two players on the planet will barely score more then likes of Di Natale. They would put in more effort then, but individually are to the degree they would score for fun in Serie A too. Like they do in CL.
 

Alen

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Ronaldo in La Liga:
81 matches - 87 goals :D

Overall he has 112 goals on 116 matches for Real (La Liga, Cup matches, CL) and by the end of the season he could easily have more goals than matches. It will be a unique achievement.
 

Azzurri7

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They wont score as much, because Serie A is tactically schooled in a way La Liga minnows arent, more clogged space and reading and adapting to your opponents way more (Mourinho was super frustrated at this challenge, heh). But its still overrating Serie A when people keep harping on how the best two players on the planet will barely score more then likes of Di Natale. They would put in more effort then, but individually are to the degree they would score for fun in Serie A too. Like they do in CL.
Of course. I can't confirm what I'm saying and you can't confirm that they will both score for fun like they do in Spain. But I can tell you one thing, even the best players in the world, from Maradona, Ronaldo, Del Piero, Platini, Van Basten, Zidane and the list goes on can confirm and approve that you don't have the spaces in Serie A like other leagues. The best players in the history of Football have played in Italy, most of them to be more accurate, and they all share the same idea. I can confirm this.
 

Alen

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but individually are to the degree they would score for fun in Serie A too. Like they do in CL.
They will both be on +25 or +30 per season probably. Not sure about Ronaldo, though. When tightly marked, which he will be whenever he plays against a serie A team, he could even end up with less than 20 goals and yes, with even less goals than Di Natale, despite the enormous difference in quality between them.

Lot will depend on the team they're at. Put Messi in this Juventus and Juve will win a lot, but not because Messi will score 30 goals as much as because there will be 3 players around him all the fucking time and the other Juventini will have it much easier. In CL, against the best teams who don't just defend, Messi finds it easier to score with Barca than he would find it if he played in serie A for this Juve, against annoying provincial teams.
We'll have a guaranteed scudetto with him, though.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Di Natale is back at the top in the goalscorers list. If he again ends as serie A topscorer, he will equal the records set by two serie A legends -Gunnar Nordahl and Michel Platini - of winning the Capocannoniere (top scorer) title for 3 straight years.
Nobody won it 4 times in a row.
And he will never win ballon d'oro :lol: fair trophy
 
May 22, 2007
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And Hamsik always finds his place in top 10, no matter if he's great or bad. For two months this season he was absolutely dreadful and yet he still did quite good number wise, both with the goals and the assists. I've been doing these stats for years now and his name is always there. Together with Di Natale and Ibra, for years he has a guaranteed spot in the top 10 of goals+assists.
Because no matter how much people claim he is invisible or whatever, he's got the awareness to be effective.

Di Natale's record is stunning, I really like having that sort of player in Serie A.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Stats of Barca/Real winning the league or Messi/Ronaldo scoring same amount of goals? Or both?
Ronaldo and Messi would score (more or less) as many goals as they are scoring now if they played in Italy with Real/Barca. They are the two best players who happen to be playing for the best two teams. Barca thrashed Napoli with five goals.
 

Powis

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Ronaldo and Messi would score (more or less) as many goals as they are scoring now if they played in Italy with Real/Barca. They are the two best players who happen to be playing for the best two teams. Barca thrashed Napoli with five goals.
There was just a friendly match. Nothin serious.
 
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