Or they'll go and sign another mediocre, error prone - but fashionable and highly rated - player like Kjaer.
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could be but wouldn't count on it considering they saw their dire need for a good CB during the 1st half of the season ... plus, their defense needs a revamp and rejuvenation anyway, with or without Burdisso in there.
And Kjaer at Palermo wasn't too shabby for a CB his age, which is why Sabatini went for him in the first place. One mediocre season in a team that went from Bundesliga champs to fighting relegation over a couple of seasons isn't a good enough reason to scrap the player just yet.
Personally, I still think it's more LE inability to build a well balanced defensively team and manage players and not Kjaer's lack of talent that is preventing Roma from having a well defined CB pair. If a player is to be dropped from the team after one poor game, then I guess both Nesta and TS should be training with the youth now considering their poor start to the season.
And Kjaer at Palermo wasn't too shabby for a CB his age, which is why Sabatini went for him in the first place. One mediocre season in a team that went from Bundesliga champs to fighting relegation over a couple of seasons isn't a good enough reason to scrap the player just yet.
Personally, I still think it's more LE inability to build a well balanced defensively team and manage players and not Kjaer's lack of talent that is preventing Roma from having a well defined CB pair. If a player is to be dropped from the team after one poor game, then I guess both Nesta and TS should be training with the youth now considering their poor start to the season.
I don't know - didn't want Kjaer at Milan but still think, with the proper coach, he can turn out to be something. He sure ain't the most mobile CB but could turn out a great move for Roma if paired with a TS type CB, which Roma should be looking for anyway considering the age of Juan and Heinze and Burdisso being Bonera's twin brother.
Just because Roma haven't found that other CB, doesn't mean they made a dumb move with going for Kjaer, when he was available at a decent price.
Just because Roma haven't found that other CB, doesn't mean they made a dumb move with going for Kjaer, when he was available at a decent price.
But the Roma CBs very often aren't playing as a pair.
They go so wide, with De Rossi in the middle that very often it's more like a back three. It means that the two CBs need to be fairly all-round players, rather than having one CB and a sweeper.
And what is a TS type CB?
A guy who stands around as a theoretical sweeper, but rarely actually bothers to cover for the markers if they get into trouble?
Silva has loads of ability, but he is far too passive.
He's also shit at defending crosses.
They go so wide, with De Rossi in the middle that very often it's more like a back three. It means that the two CBs need to be fairly all-round players, rather than having one CB and a sweeper.
And what is a TS type CB?
A guy who stands around as a theoretical sweeper, but rarely actually bothers to cover for the markers if they get into trouble?
Silva has loads of ability, but he is far too passive.
He's also shit at defending crosses.
- a mobile defender who would cover more ground and press the forwards deeper.can't agree with this part - when playing with Nesta, he doesn't have to do much when Milan is defending but otherwise Nesta no longer has the speed to cover his ground well when other teams are countering, so it's up to TS to do the job there.
If anything, he's been asked to be at a few too many places at once recently with Milan's midfield playing w/o Gattuso and a tired MvB so far this year and allowing more penetration.
And the "shit at defending crosses" part ... he is no Lugano but come on
Actually, I thought he wa far slow to cover last season, when Milan's defence weren't making a lot of errors.
I get this sort of reaction a lot when it comes to Silva: people want to call him world class or the best in the world or whatever, but they complain when you then judge him by world class standards.
And the "shit at defending crosses" part ... he is no Lugano but come on
well, I guess we have to agree to disagree on this
there has never been and there will never be, most likely, a player who is world-class at everything - even the best CB out there have weaknesses about their game. What makes a great player/CB is improving on your "soft spots" and limiting their influence on your game, as well as playing - and making the opponent play - to your strengths, as opposed to make use of your weaknesses.
Vidic, for one, may be a better header of the ball due to his more imposing physique, but he has his limitations in other areas. Same goes for virtually all defenders out there, active or retired.
TS may not be the best at defending crosses out there, but he is far from the worst and it's not exactly a weakness in his game. IMO, he is very good in some aspects, while great in others, and poor in none, which makes him a very balanced defender, who I personally wouldn't replace with any of the currently active defenders out there today.
There certainly are defenders I'd would take over him but they are either already retired - Maldini, Cannavaro - or are about to, like Nesta, for instance.
there has never been and there will never be, most likely, a player who is world-class at everything - even the best CB out there have weaknesses about their game. What makes a great player/CB is improving on your "soft spots" and limiting their influence on your game, as well as playing - and making the opponent play - to your strengths, as opposed to make use of your weaknesses.
Vidic, for one, may be a better header of the ball due to his more imposing physique, but he has his limitations in other areas. Same goes for virtually all defenders out there, active or retired.
TS may not be the best at defending crosses out there, but he is far from the worst and it's not exactly a weakness in his game. IMO, he is very good in some aspects, while great in others, and poor in none, which makes him a very balanced defender, who I personally wouldn't replace with any of the currently active defenders out there today.
There certainly are defenders I'd would take over him but they are either already retired - Maldini, Cannavaro - or are about to, like Nesta, for instance.
Thiago Silva is enormously overrated and, unless he steps up his game significantly, it will be seen when he doesn't have Nesta to carry him through games.
Thiago Silva's genius is that he is very good at being nowhere near the scene when Milan concede, so he doesn't get blamed.
A good defender would read the situation and be in a position to try and intervene. Silva doesn't think like a sweeper, so doesn't anticipate danger particularly well.
Yes, he's good at making easy, obvious dashes out behind Milan's LB, but that is easy for any vaguely decent CB.
He doesn't position himself well to cover less obviously dangerous situations.
Thiago Silva's genius is that he is very good at being nowhere near the scene when Milan concede, so he doesn't get blamed.
A good defender would read the situation and be in a position to try and intervene. Silva doesn't think like a sweeper, so doesn't anticipate danger particularly well.
Yes, he's good at making easy, obvious dashes out behind Milan's LB, but that is easy for any vaguely decent CB.
He doesn't position himself well to cover less obviously dangerous situations.
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