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Yeah, I think it's just shadow.

I'm still not convinced it was a goal, having thought it clearly wasn't a goal when I saw it at the time.

Even on the picture that makes it look like it may have been a goal, I suspect looking from the correct angle - straight along the line - would probably show part of the ball still being on the line.
 

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acmilan

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I actually thought Milan seemed remarkably focused during the game, as it would have been understandable for their minds to be elsewhere.

They clearly understood how big a game it was and kept their intensity levels up, aside from 10-15 minutes at the start of both halves.

I don't disagree with your assertion that it is a point gained. With Catania being in great form and their home form usually being strong, I don't think Milan could have expected to win that game, especially considering the impact of the Barca ties either side of it.
nah, Milan weren't focused at all - they lacked intensity and determination and some players were just plainly going thru the motions ... also the midweek game I am sure had its toll on their freshness. Only in the final 10-15 min did they look like a team that wanted the win, the chances before that came about mostly thanks to mistakes by Catania at the back or a good play by a single player or two, not as a result of team work.

anyways, Barca it is next :)

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Yeah, I think it's just shadow.

I'm still not convinced it was a goal, having thought it clearly wasn't a goal when I saw it at the time.

Even on the picture that makes it look like it may have been a goal, I suspect looking from the correct angle - straight along the line - would probably show part of the ball still being on the line.
yep, that's where my doubts lie as well
 

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nah, Milan weren't focused at all - they lacked intensity and determination and some players were just plainly going thru the motions ... also the midweek game I am sure had its toll on their freshness. Only in the final 10-15 min did they look like a team that wanted the win, the chances before that came about mostly thanks to mistakes by Catania at the back or a good play by a single player or two, not as a result of team work.

anyways, Barca it is next :)
I'm not saying Milan concentration was what I would expect it to be for a normal game in isolation.

It was just wasn't as bad as I thought it would be in the circumstances.

Was also impressed that their fitness levels, after the Barca game, were good enough to be able to pin Catania back late in the game.

I predicted a 1-1, but in my mind Milan were going to be 1-0 up at 60 mins and then be completely overrun in the last 30 mins as the effects of the Barca game came into play.

And I don't quite see your point about Milan's chances being from mistakes or individual brilliance; that's what Milan are like 90% of the time.
 

icemaη

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At times I feel Allegri needs to just field Ibra and 10 random people. Most of the time I've seen them this season, it's get the ball to Ibra and let's see what happens...
 

acmilan

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I $#@!ing hate milan. The ball didn't even cross the line. I hope the pressure is getting to those maggots
you are making it sound like the ball was cleared from a meter or two into the field :D

it was a very close call, and it's understandable why Milan fans feel it should have been a goal but they also have to keep in mind that the ref has to make these decisions in real time
 

Gerd

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At times I feel Allegri needs to just field Ibra and 10 random people. Most of the time I've seen them this season, it's get the ball to Ibra and let's see what happens...
The good thing for milan is that when ibra get's the ball usually a lot happens
 

acmilan

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I'm not saying Milan concentration was what I would expect it to be for a normal game in isolation.

It was just wasn't as bad as I thought it would be in the circumstances.

Was also impressed that their fitness levels, after the Barca game, were good enough to be able to pin Catania back late in the game.

I predicted a 1-1, but in my mind Milan were going to be 1-0 up at 60 mins and then be completely overrun in the last 30 mins as the effects of the Barca game came into play.

And I don't quite see your point about Milan's chances being from mistakes or individual brilliance; that's what Milan are like 90% of the time.
I was referring to that Urby chance in the 1st half, which was broken coverage by the catania defense. The Ibra chance (a long ball into the PA) and the goal came after good work by Ibra, Binho and one other player for that pass (Aquilani maybe). Until the final 15 min or so, Milan hardly created anything else and it was only then that they started building pressure and creating chances.

anyways, it's water under the bridge ... hope we give Barca a run for their money now and kick them out on that gorgeous pitch they have at the Camp Nou :evil:
 

Joe

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Susy Campanale slams Milan:

I sparked a lot of debate – well, mainly insults – a few weeks ago when I blogged that Juventus were whingers for spending weeks complaining about refereeing errors against them.

It is only fair, therefore, that I vent my frustration and embarrassment at seeing Milan pull the same ugly trick.

The 'woe is me’ act has always been a fundamental part of Italian football, but I am absolutely sick of it, especially in the situation we saw at Catania.

Robinho dribbled round the 'keeper and his angled drive went past two players until Giovanni Marchese cleared it off the line.

At first glance, it seemed to be a fair decision. From the first television replay, it also looked as if it hadn’t completely crossed over.

As time wore on, different angles emerged to be zoomed in, freeze-framed and digitally-enhanced.

Even then, after the full might of several different television companies, crews and cameras came down on that moment, we still cannot say for sure whether a few millimetres of the ball were on the line.

Unless there is clear space between the ball and the line, it is not a goal. This is precisely the kind of incident goalline technology would be for.

This is why it’s pathetic to see Milan treating this decision as if it were the work of a short-sighted Juventus-supporting linesman with depth perception problems.

The official Rossoneri website plastered a blown-up image of the Marchese incident alongside the (entirely obvious) Gigi Buffon clearance of a Sulley Ali Muntari effort with the headline: 'UNACCEPTABLE.’ If they mean the continuing refusal of FIFA to use goalline technology such as sensors or Hawkeye, then yes, I suppose it is.

If what they are implying is that referees are somehow purposefully punishing Milan, then it is a ludicrous message to give to their supporters.

“When it crosses the line, the rules say that it is a goal, but not for us,” said Vice-President Adriano Galliani, effectively implying Milan are second class citizens in the calcio world.

Quick, someone call Amnesty International, the Rossoneri are suffering under a dictatorship! It’s ridiculous.

So is Massimiliano Allegri’s insistence on dragging Juventus into every single press conference by telling them to “shut up” when he ought to take his own advice.

If we over-react so wildly to incredibly difficult decisions that cannot be clarified even with video evidence, then genuine complaints about silly refereeing errors are belittled.

When everyone moans, the only thing heard is a general cacophony. I’m almost starting to pine for the days of Calciopoli – at least the officials did all this complaining on the phone to the refereeing designator rather than force us all to listen to it...
 

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Gazzetta has a variety of pictures on the Robinho 'goal' (http://www.gazzetta.it/gallery/Calcio/03-2012/catania-milan/variabili-91786004220.shtml#0), but the only one that makes it look like a goal is from acmilan.com.

Now, I'm not really the paranoid, conspiracy theory type, but look at the shape of the goalline.

Is it shadow that makes it appear the ball could have been over the line or has someone at Milan doctored the picture by shaving a bit off the line?
1st, the pic is of crap quality.
2nd Is the net 1m long?
3rd right post looks crooked
4th white line looks thinner where the ball is, could be shadow.
5th Marchese got #12 but looks like 17 on the pic.

Conclusion: Bad photoshop job, they need their Nedved03.
 
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