[ITA] Serie A 2010/2011 (16 Viewers)

[JCK]

link for this goal you people are raving about?

 

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[icemaη]

Neat.

 

[Alen]

I was looking at the results of the 15 CET matches yesterday and I found this kinda annoying:

FT Cesena 0 - 2 Bologna (Di Vaio, Britos)
FT Fiorentina 1 - 0 Cagliari (Mutu)
FT Lecce 1 - 3 Genoa (Ofere - Toni, Ranocchia, Rossi)
FT Parma 2 - 1 Udinese (Crespo, Crespo - Di Natale)

These guys are from the late 1990's and they are still important players in serie A. All due respect to legends like Hernan Crespo, but as long as these guys are still playing an important role in the serie A clubs, the league won't be a match to the other big leagues.
What's even more shocking is that these guys are still the best players of their teams, which means that there is no youth to take their place and do a good job when the oldies will retire.

 

[JuveJay]

I agree on Toni and Crespo but Di Vaio and Di Natale are the type of provincial legends that we always have in Serie A, great to have players like that at smaller sides, scoring virtually every week. Serie A will always be a league for grizzly veterans.

 

[The Curr]

Mutu isn't a late 90's player. He didn't come to Italy until the 2000's.

 

[Alen]

Mutu isn't a late 90's player. He didn't come to Italy until the 2000's.

Neither is Toni, maybe even Di Natale. They were nowhere to be seen in the 1990's. I meant it as "age". Players who have been around for a long long time and who are in their 30's. Rarely you can see a +32 year old playing an instrumental role in EPL and La Liga.

 

[JuveJay]

That was always the case though Alen, even in the 'great' days.

 

[chester]

Neither is Toni, maybe even Di Natale. They were nowhere to be seen in the 1990's. I meant it as "age". Players who have been around for a long long time and who are in their 30's. Rarely you can see a +32 year old playing an instrumental role in EPL and La Liga.

Indeed, just look at f.e. Real with Raul, over the top, sell him.
ManU with Yorke/Solskjaer (although Scholes and Giggs of course say the opposite).
But I understand your concerns

 

[The Curr]

Indeed, just look at f.e. Real with Raul, over the top, sell him.
ManU with Yorke/Solskjaer (although Scholes and Giggs of course say the opposite).
But I understand your concerns

Scholes and Giggs aren't as important to their team as Di Vaio/Toni/Di Natale are to theirs.

Kevin Davies is though.

 

[Alen]

That was always the case though Alen, even in the 'great' days.

Nowdays more than ever. And there is this obvious difference in the quality of the younger players which makes the presence of the oldies felt even more.
When serie A was ruling Europe, there were 6-7 clubs doing great in all the competitions and the best players were rarely +30. Today the serie A leaders have in their ranks (even in the starting XI) guys who were in their best years 7 and a half years ago during the CL final 2003. (Zambrotta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Nesta, Inzaghi, Abbiati). And these guys are leading serie A today.

 

[Neutrol]

Di Vaio: "In comparison to 7 or 8 years ago Italian calcio was much better then. There were 6 or 7 teams of a high level that spent money"

 

[rounder]

That's not true. It was Roma, Inter, Juve, Milan, Lazio back then and it still is now.

 

[The Curr]

They were at a much higher level 7 years ago.

 

[Alen]

That's not true. It was Roma, Inter, Juve, Milan, Lazio back then and it still is now.

Yes, but if you go only 2-3 years before that, you also have a great Parma and just a bit earlier a Fiorentina with Rui Costa and Batistuta.
The 5 you mentioned+Parma were 6 teams that spent crazy amount of money to buy the best players in the world, which makes what Di Vaio says correct.
Now the names of the teams might be the same, but you simply can't compare Lazio of the early 2000's with today's Lazio, nor you can compare the early 2000's Parma, Juve, Roma etc with today's teams they have.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fiorentina/Napoli/Lazio/Parma all had massive financial problems in the early 2000s due to their overspending and other off field scandals (Fiorentina and Napoli had to be started from scratch basically)...add Calciopoli to the mix and you see why Italian football has declined. There's not as much teams with money to spend like those days. I have a feeling we might see the same thing happen to the EPL teams in the not too distant future.

The question is, will it ever return to be being the top or even a top 2 league in Europe again?

 

[JuveJay]

It's all down to money, simple really. Direct correlation, look around any competitions, any league, any tournament.

 

[The Curr]

No Inter players in the Ballon d'Or top three.

 

[Neutrol]

No Inter players in the Ballon d'Or top three.

Sneijder deserved to be there.

 

[RAMI-N]

Sneijder deserved to be there.

 

[The Curr]

Obviously.