[ITA] Serie A 2008/2009 (50 Viewers)

[Seven]

Are you saying there's a conspiracy, Andries?

In that case, I seem to agree. Inter is getting a lot of help from the refs.

Nah, I don't believe in a conspiracy if you mean an organised system in which it is certain Inter will win the scudetto even before the first game is played.

I do believe that someone somehow influences games. All in all that is what we were found guilty of anyway: people believed we might have influenced games. It's enough to send Inter to B .

 

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[Bjerknes]

Lalas pisses me off. He should have just stayed away from the public scene.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Three big decisions in Inter's favour in the last three games, all gifting them points.

I say that's weird.

Well those are a given. Every week we sit here and complain about these decisions...there comes a time when it should just be an understood fact

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[Seven]

Balotelli dived, pretty obvious to see.

But it's hilarious how your lot are selective when you talk about refereeing (not that I didn't expect it).

little reminders

Atalanta-Juve, opening the score when Marchionni was in an offside position. Atalanta all over Juve prior to that refereeing error.

Juve-Viola, Gila denied the 1-1 goal with a bogus offside call. Jovetic robbed of a penalty.

Catania-Juve, Marchionni takes the ball with his hand when the scores were tied at 1-1, Juve go on to win the game in the dying moments of the match. Ranieri himself admitted it was a penalty after the match. (I guess Moratti bribed him)

You deserve 2nd place, good for you. But that's all. And that's all you'll be getting.

Oh that's all bollocks and you know it. The amount of calls in your favour is staggering and if I were you I'd be very scared. In fact, being the more reasonable person, I'm scared. Another scandal would kill Italian football.

 

[blondu]

Three big decisions in Inter's favour in the last three games, all gifting them points.

I say that's weird.

THIS IS INTEEER.

 

[Bjerknes]

Balotelli dived, pretty obvious to see.

But it's hilarious how your lot are selective when you talk about refereeing (not that I didn't expect it).

little reminders

Atalanta-Juve, opening the score when Marchionni was in an offside position. Atalanta all over Juve prior to that refereeing error.

Juve-Viola, Gila denied the 1-1 goal with a bogus offside call. Jovetic robbed of a penalty.

Catania-Juve, Marchionni takes the ball with his hand when the scores were tied at 1-1, Juve go on to win the game in the dying moments of the match. Ranieri himself admitted it was a penalty after the match. (I guess Moratti bribed him)

You deserve 2nd place, good for you. But that's all. And that's all you'll be getting.

And you'll be getting an ass-raping from the other most disgusting team in the world, Man United.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Another scandal would kill Italian football.

Would?

I say will.They have crossed the line like 10 times already.

 

[Mark]

Mourinho's a good manager and Inter's a good team. I won't deny that.

But all those decisions in Inter's favour the last two years make me think that it is possible that the scudetto race isn't entirely fair. Add to that the odd decision that Inter received the 2005/2006 scudetto even though it was widely believed that Juventus won it without cheating and I am very, very skeptic towards Italian football. In all fairness it just doesn't feel right anymore. I don't want another scandal and by God I hope nothing is going on, but I am skeptic.

They're still crying for that Ronaldo vs Iuliano confrontation because that's one of the few calls we had in favor(if you call it in our favor since the same thing happened but outside the box in today's roma/inter and there was no whistle) while I can name like more than a handful in the past 2 seasons in favor of inter.

1. Couto header called as a handball. PK
2. Maicon offside by a mile. Goal.
3. Adriano handball #1
4. Adriano handball #2
...

 

[Mike-e-y]

Which one you mean?

The disallowed Lavezzi goal in the last few minutes

Just to end this because it seems that you enjoy these useless arguments.

I didn't compare the two managers, fact is Inter aren't superior to us and I believe they're ahead of us thanks to Refs and not Mourinho.

I believe I also told you that I don't care about Mourinho's record and what he did or achieved with Porto or Chelsea, we're talking about Inter and their season.

Even Napoli coach said that the ref did a good job in last night match. I don't know why you're forcing yourself to find un-existed things.


I'll repeat, 7 points in less than 1 month, If you already forgot the two Adriano handball in the Milan and Bologna game then that's something else. Or If you consider hand part of scoring goals then that's understandable.

No i dont really enjoy these arguments, your the one that made a comment which i wanted to understand the reasoning for.

If you go back and read my post i didnt say inter are superior to us (even though they undeniably are), i said "this is why mourinho is the best manager in serie a" when crespo scored. You claimed he was'nt and your justification was that there is a new calciopoli....

Thats fine if you don't judge a coach by what they have done in the past as an indication of how good a manager they are, Paul Ince is just as good a manager as Fabio Capello if you use that logic.

The handballs were debatable, they're the type of things that are hard to see if your reffing a game especially with the ball travelling at speed being crossed in - that doesn't make mourinho a bad manager.

anyway lets draw a line under the issue, agree to disagree

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[Red]

Balotelli dived, pretty obvious to see.

But it's hilarious how your lot are selective when you talk about refereeing (not that I didn't expect it).

little reminders

Atalanta-Juve, opening the score when Marchionni was in an offside position. Atalanta all over Juve prior to that refereeing error.

Juve-Viola, Gila denied the 1-1 goal with a bogus offside call. Jovetic robbed of a penalty.

Catania-Juve, Marchionni takes the ball with his hand when the scores were tied at 1-1, Juve go on to win the game in the dying moments of the match. Ranieri himself admitted it was a penalty after the match. (I guess Moratti bribed him)

You deserve 2nd place, good for you. But that's all. And that's all you'll be getting.

1. I'm not sure the Marchionni one was a penalty. It was a close call and the ref is always going to give the benefit of the doubt after Iaquinta was sent off (even though he deserved it).

2. It's just that Inter have had a run of favourable decisions in the last few weeks, so it is more noticeable. Juve's have been spread nicely through the season so as to attract as little attention as possible.

 

[Seven]

They're still crying for that Ronaldo vs Iuliano confrontation because that's one of the few calls we had in favor(if you call it in our favor since the same thing happened but outside the box in today's roma/inter and there was no whistle) while I can name like more than a handful in the past 2 seasons in favor of inter.

1. Couto header called as a hanball. PK
2. Maicon offside by a mile. Goal.
3. Adriano handball #1
4. Adriano handball #2
...

True, but I think you don't quite realise just how much Inter fans were traumatised by that experience. There was the whole debate in the Italian parliament after the game as well. They're still bitter about it. In fact, I personally know two Italian Inter fans who couldn't care less if Inter cheated their way to victory. They never got over Iuliano .

 

[Seven]

1. I'm not sure the Marchionni one was a penalty. It was a close call and the ref is always going to give the benefit of the doubt after Iaquinta was sent off (even though he deserved it).

2. It's just that Inter have had a run of favourable decisions in the last few weeks, so it is more noticeable. Juve's have been spread nicely through the season so as to attract as little attention as possible.

It's too much. Over the past two season it's ridiculous how many points Inter got from bad refereeing. I want to believe that it's coincidence, but like I said before, I'm skeptic.

 

[Azzurri7]

Will some explain it to Mikey that Lavezzi disallowed goal was a spot on decision by the ref. I'm tired personally and can't bother explaining.

 

[Javier_Zanetti]

I guess going from late October til March without a single penalty awarded is a sign of favouritism. Rotfl. You must have missed Inter-Torino when Bergonzi failed to award Inter a stonewall penalty for a crystal clear handball on Abate. Oh wait, it doesn't count because it's not a pro-Inter mistake..

And I know we will lose to Man U, but don't act as if Juve own English clubs... Pool and Arsenal knocked you out 2 years in a row during the Capello times. Hopefully Chelsea complete the treble.

 

[Mike-e-y]

Mourinho's a good manager and Inter's a good team. I won't deny that.

But all those decisions in Inter's favour the last two years make me think that it is possible that the scudetto race isn't entirely fair. Add to that the odd decision that Inter received the 2005/2006 scudetto even though it was widely believed that Juventus won it without cheating and I am very, very skeptic towards Italian football. In all fairness it just doesn't feel right anymore. I don't want another scandal and by God I hope nothing is going on, but I am skeptic.

Dont get me wrong i agree completely, it pisses me off that the refs always seem to lean towards them whenever a debatable call comes up, but i dont think theres anything sinister there, at least i hope there isn't.

The same stuff happens in England, Man U always get the benefit of the doubt with penalty calls offsides etc. but thats just pressure getting to refs. Also in boxing, the judges will more often than not give a 50:50 round to the world champion over the challengers, its just the mentality of officials

 

[Rollie]

1. I'm not sure the Marchionni one was a penalty. It was a close call and the ref is always going to give the benefit of the doubt after Iaquinta was sent off (even though he deserved it).

2. It's just that Inter have had a run of favourable decisions in the last few weeks, so it is more noticeable. Juve's have been spread nicely through the season so as to attract as little attention as possible.

I agree Red... it's just REALLY unfortunate that these decisions have also come against Milan and Roma, in matches that often define the championship...

 

[Seven]

Will some explain it to Mikey that Lavezzi disallowed goal was a spot on decision by the ref. I'm tired personally and can't bother explaining.

I don't know why anyone would think otherwise TBH. All papers seem to agree that it was a correct call.

 

[king Ale]

The disallowed Lavezzi goal in the last few minutes

Cannavaro was offside.

 

[Red]

It's too much. Over the past two season it's ridiculous how many points Inter got from bad refereeing. I want to believe that it's coincidence, but like I said before, I'm skeptic.

Last season was ridiculous the number of decisions that went their way.

This season, it hasn't been as bad and a lot of the 'mistakes' have been difficult decisions.

The refs are still favouring them, but not so much.

 

[Seven]

I guess going from late October til March without a single penalty awarded is a sign of favouritisim. Rotfl. You must have missed Inter-Torino when Bergonzi failed to award Inter a stonewall penalty for a crystal clear handball on Abate. Oh wait, it doesn't count because it's not a pro-Inter mistake..

And I know we will lose to Man U, but don't act as if Juve own English clubs... Pool and Arsenal knocked you out 2 years in a row during the Capello times. Hopefully Chelsea complete the treble.

Yeah, Bergonzi. He's famous for being pro-Juventus .